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PP won its slot in the demo again
 
Posts: 3916 | Registered: 20 September 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Its a bigger drop than what Cane Did in its first two weeks (19%)


Smaller than "Bionic Woman"'s second week, though (-26%)

I thought -20% in the second week was supposed to be normal -- that about 20% of viewers sample a show and never come back. Or is that an older industry standard?
 
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Now that is very interesting.

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Originally posted by Seat42f:
Not sure what % of Tivo is in the DVR world... but interesting tidbit from their PR today...

"What is extremely interesting is that with the exception of sports programs nearly two-thirds of all viewing during premiere week was done on a Time-shifted basis," said Todd Juenger, Vice President & General Manager, TiVo Audience Research & Measurement. "The high amount of time-shifting viewing highlights the importance of not simply measuring a program's success based on overnight ratings. Instead, it's critical to also factor in time-shifting viewing, considering it represented two-thirds of the audience for most of these programs."


 
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I don't think anyone would be surprised that PD has a higher demo than Cane. Thats a given, but to lose 3 million viewers in one week is still alarming.
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Different situation than Cane though in that its holding in the younger demos. Cane's situation is more desperate because its so older skewing.
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That's not a terrible situation...yet. I still love the show and see it as this year's Ugly Betty, which will become a modest hit over time.

Its a bigger drop than what Cane Did in its first two weeks (19%)


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I'm not surprised. PP is getting better and better each week. I enjoy it more than GA.

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PP won its slot in the demo again


 
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As someone who enjoyed the pilot and all its... eccentricity... I have to say that last night's episode sucked. Instead of merely hitting sugary sweet notes, it gave me diabetes. The detective work, if it can so be called, was poorly done and the "flashback exposition with twee narration" tiresome.

And this is the result of massive overspending and reshooting.

I shudder to think of what next week brings.


In fairness to Fuller (and we all know fairness is what I am all about, right? Right?), he created such an utterly contrived, overstrained, unsustainable premise for PD that it would have been unreasonable to expect the show to improve from the pilot, rather than deteriorate progressively--and rapidly.

The guy does not know how to make a network show. Period. He should be making short artfilms to be shown in overendowed museums to people with too much money and not enough sense. And there could be pie at the intermission.

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wheres the wednesday thread?
 
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wheres the wednesday thread?

I'm wondering the same. Is Marc taking a nap or something? Wink
 
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DSM took a tumble also. That is another show that needs to stabilize.


 
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I have Bionic Woman at about 20% too.
13.91 million down to 11.074.
And it was hammered by the posted the next day too.
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Its a bigger drop than what Cane Did in its first two weeks (19%)


Smaller than "Bionic Woman"'s second week, though (-26%)

I thought -20% in the second week was supposed to be normal -- that about 20% of viewers sample a show and never come back. Or is that an older industry standard?


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Media Life Magazine has its article up. Looks like Kid Nation crashed in demo to 2.0.
 
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http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman2/publish/Overni...ld_on_Wednesdays.asp

ABC firms up its
hold on Wednesdays

Easy win with a 3.9 in 18-49s, its third straight

By Toni Fitzgerald
Oct 11, 2007


Even with two of its new shows seeing week-to-week declines, ABC seems to have a firm hold on Wednesday night.

The network won its third straight Wednesday last night with a 3.9 adults 18-49 rating and 11 share, according to Nielsen overnights, 18 percent ahead of second-place CBS’s 3.3/9.

It stayed ahead despite a 14 percent week-to-week decline for the 8 p.m. drama “Pushing Daisies,” which slipped from a 4.2 in its premiere to a 3.6 last night. “Daisies” still won the timeslot and it did not lose any 18-49 audience from its first half hour to its second.

Whether those debut-week viewers were tuning out or simply time-shifting the show won’t be known for several weeks.

Media people have cautioned that until the DVR ratings are out, it’s impossible to get a full picture of how a show performed because Nielsen’s DVR household sample has more than doubled since this time last year.

ABC’s 10 p.m. show “Dirty Sexy Money” also slipped a tad in its third outing after staying even from its first to its second week. It fell from a 3.6 to a 3.4, taking second in the timeslot to CBS’s “CSI: NY,” though it was a solid first in 18-34s and rose 13 percent from last week.

The best news for ABC came at 9 p.m., where its “Grey’s Anatomy” spinoff, “Private Practice,” bounced up 7 percent over last week’s 4.5 in 18-49s to a 4.8. That came after a 12 percent slide from its opener in week two.

“Bionic Woman” on NBC slipped again in the same hour, down 5 percent from last week’s 4.0 to a 3.8. It tied for second place behind “Practice” in the timeslot with CBS’s “Criminal Minds.”

Fox’s “Back to You” dipped for the third straight week at 8 p.m., from a 2.4 last week to a series-low 2.2. Meanwhile, second-year lead-out “’Til Death” managed to build on its lead-in for a second straight week, to a 2.4.

And CBS’s “Kid Nation,” the controversial new reality show, also hit a series low, dipping 17 percent from last week from a 2.4 to a 2.0.

For the night, NBC placed third behind ABC and CBS at 3.2/9, followed by Fox fourth at 2.6/7, the CW fifth at 1.9/5 and Univision sixth at 1.4/4. NBC was the only Big Four network to rise over the same night last year, though every network has overhauled their lineup.

ABC started the night in the lead with a 3.6 at 8 p.m. for “Daisies,” followed by NBC with a 3.1 for “Deal or No Deal,” the network's best rating in the slot in 10 months. CW was third with a 2.5 for “America’s Next Top Model,” Fox fourth with a 2.3 average for “You” (2.2) and “Death” (2.4), CBS fifth with a 2.0 for “Nation” and Univision sixth with a 1.o for “Amar sin Limites.”

At 9 p.m. ABC led again with a 4.8 for “Practice,” while NBC and CBS tied for second at 3.8, NBC for “Bionic” and CBS for “Minds.” Fox was fourth with a 3.0 for “Kitchen Nightmares,” Univision fifth with a 2.0 for “Destilando Amor” and CW sixth with a 1.3 for “Gossip Girl.”

CBS took the lead at 10 p.m. with a 4.0 for “CSI: NY,” with ABC slipping to second with a 3.4 for “Money.” NBC was third with a 2.8 for “Life” and Univision fourth with a 1.4 for “Don Francisco Presenta.”

Among households, CBS was first for the night with a 7.4 average overnight rating and a 12 share. ABC was second at 7.0/11, NBC third at 6.5/11, Fox fourth at 4.1/7, CW fifth at 2.7/4 and Univision sixth at 1.9/3.


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Originally posted by Seat42f:
Not sure what % of Tivo is in the DVR world... but interesting tidbit from their PR today...

"What is extremely interesting is that with the exception of sports programs nearly two-thirds of all viewing during premiere week was done on a Time-shifted basis," said Todd Juenger, Vice President & General Manager, TiVo Audience Research & Measurement. "The high amount of time-shifting viewing highlights the importance of not simply measuring a program's success based on overnight ratings. Instead, it's critical to also factor in time-shifting viewing, considering it represented two-thirds of the audience for most of these programs."


This looks like a very deceptive comment on their part. I would bet that most of the 'timeshifting' is being done by people watching the program an hour or 2 later (they might even be counting people that start a program 20 minutes late in order to avoid the commercials as they watch it 'live'). So, most of this 'timeshifting' is still being counted by the overnight ratings.
 
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My Network TV FInals

8:00PM ACADEMY
- 830K Viewers (0.3/1) Demo

9:00PM JAIL
- 1.34M viewers (0.5/1) Demo

9:30PM JAIL-REPEAT
- 1.31M viewers (0.5/1) Demo


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My Network TV FInals
9:00PM JAIL
- 1.34M viewers (0.5/1) Demo

9:30PM JAIL-REPEAT
- 1.31M viewers (0.5/1) Demo


The show so good that nearly everyone watches it twice?
 
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