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From the Los Angeles Times
JOEL STEIN

'Cavemen' sitcom: art imitating advertising?

His script was canned, but the Geico ad-inspired show got the green light -- and that's OK.

Joel Stein

May 18, 2007

YES, THE TV PILOT I wrote this year was rejected while a sitcom version of the Geico caveman commercials made the fall schedule. I get how that's embarrassing. And I understand why every sitcom writer I know, entertainment journalist I've read and George Lopez (who said, upon being canceled by ABC, "A Chicano can't be on TV but a caveman can?") has focused so much of their dismay about this week's "upfronts" — when networks unveil their fall lineups — on "Cavemen." They're citing it as evidence of how the networks are crass, clueless and controlled by gay men with a predilection for bears over twinks. You work in Hollywood, you learn a lot of gay slang.

But the "Cavemen" script is a lot better than mine. It shrewdly plays on society's conflicting attitudes about stereotypes and has a good running gag about a modern-day caveman who accidentally hits his girlfriend's dad with a golf club. Plus, it involves characters who people already enjoy — even when they're hawking car insurance.

When I interviewed Matthew Fox at his bar in Manhattan Beach, the actor and his buddies kept talking about how much they loved how the cavemen were exasperated by discrimination. They never once mentioned how hilarious it was when I moved out of my wacky parents' house and got hired — young, fish-out-of-water-style — to work at a stuffy newsmagazine. Or when George Lopez went out and George Lopezed something.

Sure, ABC's "Cavemen" now has to turn a one-note joke into a character-driven series. But so does CBS' upcoming sitcom "The Big Bang Theory," which is about a hot girl who moves next door to two super-nerdy physicists. (Not to ruin it for you, but they try to impress her with equations — which she can't follow!) And so did "3rd Rock From the Sun," "Bewitched," "The Beverly Hillbillies" and Jim Cramer's "Mad Money."

"Cavemen" has become the mockery of the fall schedule because it started as a commercial instead of a book, movie, telenovela or underdeveloped character on "Grey's Anatomy." But it's not as if Geico pitched the show. Ad writer Joe Lawson did. He'd gotten so attached to his hirsute characters that he wanted to do more things with them. Things such as make more money. He and the commercials' directors, Josh Gordon and Will Speck — who also directed Will Ferrell's "Blades of Glory" — pitched a finished script to ABC and gave Geico a percentage in return for creative control of the cavemen. Compared to the product placement on "American Idol" or "The Office," this is art for art's sake.

That's the core of the distaste for "Cavemen": that an advertising idea is being transformed into art. But every format — ads, sitcoms, movies, sonnets — has its own restrictions, and great things can be created within those limits. An entertaining commercial is just as legitimate as any other form of entertainment. My wife slept with a beloved Jolly Green Giant doll as a child. Which, sadly, now causes all kinds of expectations I can't deliver on.

Lawson's great artistic crime is that he took a concept for a medium that sells things and shifted it to a medium whose purpose is to get people to watch the medium that sells things. And he did that pretty well. He has three distinct, realistic guys in their 30s, each dealing with being a minority in a radically different way. I enjoyed the caveman obsessed with the offensiveness of "The Flintstones." He chats up a woman at a wedding with: "So this tiny waitress can carry a rack of ribs that's so heavy, it can tip over a car made of stone? I'm sorry, I just don't see what's funny about that."

Still, I would have been nervous about taking a job writing for "Cavemen" — if I'd been offered one. Not because I don't think it's good, or because it happens not to be the kind of low-concept sitcom I prefer, but because everyone would pick on me. For no good reason. Which is just how the cavemen feel. And George Lopez. Except for the "good reason" part.


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I wouldn't want to line the pockets of this bitter jerk.


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Me either. Apparently he sucks more than the writers of Cavemen. Kick his a$$ George



 
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I find it offensive that George Lopez insinuates that his sitcom was canceled because of his Hispanic heritage.

Like the low ratings and bad comedy had nothing to do with it.

Real class act to play the race card so quickly. Is he going to sue ABC/Disney for discrimination now?
 
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George's ratings will probably look like gold by the time ABC realizes Caveman is a loser series. I don't like that he's playing the race card, but ABC's treatment has never been real great.
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I find it offensive that George Lopez insinuates that his sitcom was canceled because of his Hispanic heritage.

Like the low ratings and bad comedy had nothing to do with it.

Real class act to play the race card so quickly. Is he going to sue ABC/Disney for discrimination now?



 
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I wouldn't want to line the pockets of this bitter jerk.


Who? George Lopez? I agree.

Oh, wait. You meant Joel Stein. Well, he did write for "Crumbs" and his episodes didn't get on TV. So... pretty much everything he did for ABC didn't get on the air. But "Cavemen" did. Yeah, I can't imagine why he's bitter.


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He seemed more bitter towards the gay community than he did for ABC. Joel Stein that is, not George Lopez.


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Yes because Crumbs was such a winner, losing 60% of its Dancing lead in. I'm sure that's exactly the type of program ABC wanted. Even Help Me Help You outdid that retention rate.
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
I wouldn't want to line the pockets of this bitter jerk.


Who? George Lopez? I agree.

Oh, wait. You meant Joel Stein. Well, he did write for "Crumbs" and his episodes didn't get on TV. So... pretty much everything he did for ABC didn't get on the air. But "Cavemen" did. Yeah, I can't imagine why he's bitter.



 
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Mushu - I didn't think the ratings were that bad for Crumbs as much as it was because their were numerous complaints regarding how they portrayed the mentally ill.

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Yes because Crumbs was such a winner, losing 60% of its Dancing lead in. I'm sure that's exactly the type of program ABC wanted. Even Help Me Help You outdid that retention rate.
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Originally posted by Riff Rafferty:
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
I wouldn't want to line the pockets of this bitter jerk.


Who? George Lopez? I agree.

Oh, wait. You meant Joel Stein. Well, he did write for "Crumbs" and his episodes didn't get on TV. So... pretty much everything he did for ABC didn't get on the air. But "Cavemen" did. Yeah, I can't imagine why he's bitter.


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I think it was a combination of both. They even tried it after the "gold standard" of ABC comedies, According to Jim and it lost about 20% of the lead in. It wasn't anything special.
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Mushu - I didn't think the ratings were that bad for Crumbs as much as it was because their were numerous complaints regarding how they portrayed the mentally ill.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
Yes because Crumbs was such a winner, losing 60% of its Dancing lead in. I'm sure that's exactly the type of program ABC wanted. Even Help Me Help You outdid that retention rate.
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Originally posted by Riff Rafferty:
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
I wouldn't want to line the pockets of this bitter jerk.


Who? George Lopez? I agree.

Oh, wait. You meant Joel Stein. Well, he did write for "Crumbs" and his episodes didn't get on TV. So... pretty much everything he did for ABC didn't get on the air. But "Cavemen" did. Yeah, I can't imagine why he's bitter.



 
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I am glad that ABC has decided to go forward with this Cavemen show. Not since the smash CBS hit "Baby Bob" has such a groundbreaking and edgy multi-cross-promotional endeavor been undertaken. In honor of this bold and daring move, I have decided to pitch a dozen ideas to the networks.


"The Geico Gecko" - A down-on-his-luck gecko from the Eastend of London moves to the United States and becomes a car insurance guru.

"The Wisemans" - Patriarch Sol and his wife Carol eat lots of pizza and roll their eyes at each other in their Brooklyn home. Starring Len Lesser.

"Who's in Your Fave Five?" - A dysfunctional and psychotic family will stop at nothing to ensure they are a part of the "fave five" of each other member of the clan after they all win T-Mobiles in a radio station giveaway.

"Jack Box" - A guy with a golf ball for a head, blue dots for eyes and a black cone for a nose is CEO for a fourth-rate fast food joint that specializes in kangaroo burgers and rat droppings.

"Airborne" - A teacher who is sick of catching colds at school decides to do something about it. With Butch Patrick, Johnny Whitaker and other washed-up child actors from the '60s.

"Fabulous!" - Vanessa Branch stars in a heartwarming comedy about an English gum saleslady with really, really white teeth. Featuring a unique gimmick, wiewers of the show can pick up a copy of TV Guide for their free Crest Whitestrips and whiten their teeth at home while watching the show.

"Be Genital" - Romantic comedy about a couple who are alike in every way but one. He has genital herpes. And she doesn't. Fortunately, they use once-daily medication to ensure that opposites will continue to attract as far as their downstairs carpeting is concerned.

"Dirty Train" - In the world's first mystery drama comedy western musical, this edgy NBC project centers on locomotive workers in Spain and China who dream about hopping the border and becoming illegal aliens so they can work on GE's clean trains. In a twist, the workers periodically break into '80s songs. Produced by Deborra-Lee Furness.

"A Lotta Cereal" - Drama about a morbidly obese and hideously unattractive black lady with bug eyes who works in a soup kitchen for the homeless. Sick and tired of soup, she invests in a lifetime supply of a breakfast cereal filled with bunches of honey and oats, and embarks on a nationwide quest to feed America.

"Wazzzzzzup!!?!" - A trio of slacker buddies with no jobs or prospects share their affinity for bad American beer and annoying catchphrases.

"Oh Look, a Unicorn" - A check card-carrying leprechaun living in modern-day society finds his way out of daily jams by fooling gullible people into believing there is a unicorn behind them.

"Head On" - No one really knows what this one's about.


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"Head On" - No one really knows what this one's about.

Kid with large zits on the forehead gets picked on everyday at school until he figures out how to use them for self defense. In an ironic twist, the zits shoot whip cream and there are lots of good looking women covered up by the end of the episode. I hear MyNetworkTV is considering airing this as a companion to Gee or No Gee.



 
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Chalk another fan up for x in the ongoing war of first cancelled series.
"However, buyers nearly universally predicted ABC’s new sitcom Caveman, based on the Geico commercial characters, will be the first show on any network to get canceled."
http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003587789



 
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I was surprised that the Bionic Woman was listed as a loser.

I am starting to change my tune on the Big Bang Theory. The previews were funny and the buzz is pretty good.


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I pretty much agree with the Mediaweek list of winners & losers with the exception of NBC’s “Chuck” and ABC’s “Big Shots” being listed as “winners”.

Maybe I’ll be proven wrong, but I think “Chuck” will be gone by the time January rolls around, if not sooner. It has a tough time period, opposite Fox’s “House” and ABC’s “Dancing With the Stars: Results Show”. Between those two and modest CBS series “The Unit”, “Chuck” will be left fighting for the few and far between left-overs.

I may be personally biased against “Big Shots” because I simply don’t like the premise or its roster of stars. A soap following a soap has worked before – “Falcon Crest” successfully followed “Dallas” for years on CBS Fridays in the 1980s. But given ABC’s track record in that time period this season (“Six Degrees”, “Men in Trees”, and “October Road” all under-performed), “Big Shots” will have to succeed where others have failed. With CBS’s (unwise) decision to return “Without a Trace” to Thursdays, the dynamics of the time period have changed since “Shark” aired there. With “Trace” back, CBS will likely have an advantage over both ABC’s new offering and NBC’s way-past-its-prime “E.R.”
 
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