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I agree x. Moonlighting has the most compatible lead in, but Buffy was never a monster. Ditto for Angel. Cane is the most likely to succeed.
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Let's be realistic here. Cane is by far the least risky - and I don't even see it as Risky. It actually has a great shot at a second season because it is has a great concept and has a recognizable lead. Plus you get diversity points for it.

And picking the Vampire show for possible success out of the bunch? The odds are extremely low that this one will make it. Yes, I'll watch, but the track record for mass appeal Vampire themed shows is not good. (And even if this show draws the numbers Angel drew, which is a longshot, aren't those pretty low for CBS standards?)

Everyone was complaining before that CBS only presented the same old Bruckheimer procedurals. Now that they are doing something about that, people are complaining again. Geez.

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Originally posted by ryan1890:
I think CBS new shows are the worst of the lot for this coming season.

The programs are far too risky and the only one I believe that even has a chance is Moonlight.

The other programs are just not compatible enough with the regular audience that CBS relies on so heavily.

I don't think the network should have gone out and ordered more procedurals, I think they should have ordered 'different' shows but not programs that different.

I can't understand why they are launching yet another new series at 10/9c Tuesdays, the easiest thing to do would have been to shift an established hit to that slot (Shark anyone?).

And I cannot believe CBS switching Shark and Without a Trace around. It's just stupidly unnecessary in my opinion.





 
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No - people who have actually seen it have liked it. Do you really think CBS is going to air a show that tested that poorly? It's more likely they might be retooling still - which I'll admit worries me, but it worked for Brothers & Sisters.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Funny how Viva laughlin is the only show without video. Must be like those BAD summer movies that Critics don't get to see in advance or the release.[QUOTE]Originally posted by weaklink75:
CBS has their preview site up...

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/fall_preview_2007/


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Most programs go through retooling x. Don't worry about it. It will probably help, not hurt the show.
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
No - people who have actually seen it have liked it. Do you really think CBS is going to air a show that tested that poorly? It's more likely they might be retooling still - which I'll admit worries me, but it worked for Brothers & Sisters.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Funny how Viva laughlin is the only show without video. Must be like those BAD summer movies that Critics don't get to see in advance or the release.[QUOTE]Originally posted by weaklink75:
CBS has their preview site up...

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/fall_preview_2007/





 
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x, do you have a link to a review of Viva Laughlin? And no, not the one line review you mentioned yesterday that was submitted on that Pilot Buzz site. Anyone could have emailed that one liner. I am talking about a real review of this show from someone who has actually seen it. Just wondering who these "people who have actually seen it" are.

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
No - people who have actually seen it have liked it. Do you really think CBS is going to air a show that tested that poorly? It's more likely they might be retooling still - which I'll admit worries me, but it worked for Brothers & Sisters.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Funny how Viva laughlin is the only show without video. Must be like those BAD summer movies that Critics don't get to see in advance or the release.[QUOTE]Originally posted by weaklink75:
CBS has their preview site up...

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/fall_preview_2007/
 
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Yes, most shows go through retooling. But CBS could not come up with a 30-60 second clip to put on their website as they did for the rest of their new shows? Surely, this is not a good sign. Can you say 3 and out?

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
Most programs go through retooling x. Don't worry about it. It will probably help, not hurt the show.
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
No - people who have actually seen it have liked it. Do you really think CBS is going to air a show that tested that poorly? It's more likely they might be retooling still - which I'll admit worries me, but it worked for Brothers & Sisters.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Funny how Viva laughlin is the only show without video. Must be like those BAD summer movies that Critics don't get to see in advance or the release.[QUOTE]Originally posted by weaklink75:
CBS has their preview site up...

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/fall_preview_2007/
 
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Just wondering who these "people who have actually seen it" are.

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Do you really think CBS is going to air a show that tested that poorly?

Well, they did air "Armed and Famous". I don't see that having tested very good.


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Hey AL,

I know you in on the bet, but are you going with Cavemen, or another stinker that is not as BAD as VL?


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Well - I do realize it was a one liner, but the site looks legit since they gave a lot of detail on all the shows. There is one other comment on it as well... uh, not sure what to make of it. Here is the link.

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Originally posted by AL:
x, do you have a link to a review of Viva Laughlin? And no, not the one line review you mentioned yesterday that was submitted on that Pilot Buzz site. Anyone could have emailed that one liner. I am talking about a real review of this show from someone who has actually seen it. Just wondering who these "people who have actually seen it" are.

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
No - people who have actually seen it have liked it. Do you really think CBS is going to air a show that tested that poorly? It's more likely they might be retooling still - which I'll admit worries me, but it worked for Brothers & Sisters.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Funny how Viva laughlin is the only show without video. Must be like those BAD summer movies that Critics don't get to see in advance or the release.[QUOTE]Originally posted by weaklink75:
CBS has their preview site up...

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/fall_preview_2007/


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Grease? Armed & Famous? - you are really reaching now. Can you come up with stuff that is not reality show based? Thanks!

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
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Just wondering who these "people who have actually seen it" are.

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Do you really think CBS is going to air a show that tested that poorly?

Well, they did air "Armed and Famous". I don't see that having tested very good.


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Yea, these look like real reviews from reputable sources:

Viva Laughlin -- 1) "It is different, but very good. I think this will surprise people." 2) "When we watched it we all felt awkward. I have to admit it made me smile in places but the show is weird."

Come on x. These are the reviews you are referring to? For all I know you emailed that review in. I am talking about a REAL REVIEW of the show.

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Well - I do realize it was a one liner, but the site looks legit since they gave a lot of detail on all the shows. There is one other comment on it as well... uh, not sure what to make of it. Here is the link.

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Originally posted by AL:
x, do you have a link to a review of Viva Laughlin? And no, not the one line review you mentioned yesterday that was submitted on that Pilot Buzz site. Anyone could have emailed that one liner. I am talking about a real review of this show from someone who has actually seen it. Just wondering who these "people who have actually seen it" are.

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
No - people who have actually seen it have liked it. Do you really think CBS is going to air a show that tested that poorly? It's more likely they might be retooling still - which I'll admit worries me, but it worked for Brothers & Sisters.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Funny how Viva laughlin is the only show without video. Must be like those BAD summer movies that Critics don't get to see in advance or the release.[QUOTE]Originally posted by weaklink75:
CBS has their preview site up...

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/fall_preview_2007/
 
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Grease? Armed & Famous? - you are really reaching now. Can you come up with stuff that is not reality show based? Thanks!

Well, Cop Rock is the only show that you can really compare it to.

I wonder how both Smith and 3lbs did in testing. And those shows are 10 times better than VL can be.
Lets not forget about Hack from a few years back.


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Hack lasted 2 seasons on Saturday - not bad. I liked that show, but I don't follow the reference. 3 lbs got a rave review from The Futon Critic as did Smith. Ugly Betty got one star from him. http://www.thefutoncritic.com/guide.aspx?id=pilot_previews

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
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Grease? Armed & Famous? - you are really reaching now. Can you come up with stuff that is not reality show based? Thanks!

Well, Cop Rock is the only show that you can really compare it to.

I wonder how both Smith and 3lbs did in testing. And those shows are 10 times better than VL can be.
Lets not forget about Hack from a few years back.


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Hack lasted 2 seasons on Saturday - not bad.

Kind of hard to come up with failed scripted CBS shows. There aren't that many, recently.


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Well, I have been saying that VL would be cancelled before Caveman. But if you want me to pick a different show I also think that CANE will be cancelled before Caveman. So I can go with that as well.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Hey AL,

I know you in on the bet, but are you going with Cavemen, or another stinker that is not as BAD as VL?
 
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You don't have to pick a different show, I just wanted to get it all straight.
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Originally posted by AL:
Well, I have been saying that VL would be cancelled before Caveman. But if you want me to pick a different show I also think that CANE will be cancelled before Caveman. So I can go with that as well.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Hey AL,

I know you in on the bet, but are you going with Cavemen, or another stinker that is not as BAD as VL?


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