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BL is not lead in dependent.

Now wait, I remember reading post, after post that BL would do better number once DWtS was its lead in. That it numbers were sucking because of Primetime Live was on at 9pm, over the winter.

Now which is it?

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Viva Laughlin is certainly like nothing else on TV and at least will have 60 Minutes and Football to give it promotion.

I don't see to many "Football Fans" tuning into VL, in general. That would be like promoting WWE Raw during an episode of DH or Grey's

Mush - If you look at the production team and solid experienced stars on Viva Laughlin, you will see that this a show worth checking out and should not discount right away. This show is gonna be yuge I tell ya!

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
I agree. The new CBS shows are certainly intersting. Cane sounds very good imo, but timeslot will probably kill it. Viva Laughlin is certainly like nothing else on TV and at least will have 60 Minutes and Football to give it promotion. Moonlighting is probably in a timeslot that it will do at least moderately well with.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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Well, if people aren't smart enough to turn on CBS to watch these "intelligent" shows, then I really question this line of thought.

To me, someone who is educated and urban would be smart enough to watch shows based on the content, not the network. If you actually would discount a show because of the network it was on, I would tend to label you as uneducated and rural. Therefore, people who are uneducated and rural are watching anything but CBS.

Well Said X!

Wouldnt football fans be tuning into more football? I don't think CBS is going to program for them.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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Viva Laughlin is certainly like nothing else on TV and at least will have 60 Minutes and Football to give it promotion.

I don't see to many "Football Fans" tuning into VL, in general. That would be like promoting WWE Raw during an episode of DH or Grey's

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CBS is in trouble. People are tiring of procedurals.

CSI still gets 20 million, and will be the MOST watch scripted show on TV, again, this season.

CSI: Miami just got about 16.5 million viewers Monday and was the highest rated 10pm show in the demo last week (Something LOST viewers like to point out). NCIS still does very well vs AI on Tuesdays. Shark was the most watched new show this season. CM and CSI:NY still packs a good 1-2 punch on Wednesdays.

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Wouldnt football fans be tuning into more football? I don't think CBS is going to program for them.

Exactly my point.

Right so anything they put on Sundays is going to be geared for the non-football viewer. And nothing fits the bill better than Viva Laughlin!

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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Wouldnt football fans be tuning into more football? I don't think CBS is going to program for them.

Exactly my point.

This is a pretty solid schedule. CBS is taking more chances with its new shows than its schedule. Hopefully, it pays off. I give it a solid B.

I'm just glad TAR will be back.

Shark will probably skew even older out of Cold Case than Without a Trace.

CBS doesn't have alot of shows come midseason. Do they?

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
That's true x. Jericho fans should be happy for an entertaining year.

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Well, many people (like Marc for example) said that Jericho wouldn't last 3 weeks.

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Originally posted by Milcus:
so, Jericho was cancelled for a show about 40 kids in New Mexico that wont last 3 weeks. Smart.

I stuck with it right until they killed off Gerald McRaney at the end...who was the moral center of the show. It was like killing off Ma Walton or Pa Ingles, if there had been a nuclear terror threat in the 1880s or 1930s...

I stopped caring at that point if they brought it back...the show needed the shot of realism he brought to the formula...

About as amny as they did this time last year.

all we knew then was KoQ, Rules... and 3lbs at midseason, Plus a show called Waterfront. Here is the Press release from Last year

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Originally posted by TAYLORJNG:
This is a pretty solid schedule. CBS is taking more chances with its new shows than its schedule. Hopefully, it pays off. I give it a solid B.

I'm just glad TAR will be back.

Shark will probably skew even older out of Cold Case than Without a Trace.

CBS doesn't have alot of shows come midseason. Do they?

Go check out the average household income of a CBS viewer versus ABC or NBC. That is my point.

Just found the data:

Adults 25-54:

ABC $64,000
NBC $60,000
CBS $59,000
FOX $53,000

Of the top 20 shows of 4th quarter 2006 with the highest income, only 3 were on CBS. Amazing Race, 60 Minutes, and Two And A Half Men.

And with 60 Minutes, it skews O-L-D.

The Class would've been perfect for ABC.

CBS is much more of a conservative network. Go to the map, see where Bush won the election, and you've got CBS pegged.

You can add HIMYM and Old Christine to the list of shows that don't fit CBS.

Just like Justice belonged on CBS. Would've been a great show for them.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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They were on CBS, who's audience is more uneducated and rural.

Those shows are way too sophisticated for the IQ of a CBS viewer.

WHAT??????

Do you have actual facts or are you just pulling random words out you a$$ ???

I watched every episode of The Class and "sophisticated" is NOT a word I would use to describe it.

Jericho was just boring. I gave it 3 episodes. That is what killed it.

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So when did IQ equate to income or "sophistication" ?

It is the "lower IQ" people like you that want to stero type everything and everyone.

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Go check out the average household income of a CBS viewer versus ABC or NBC. That is my point.

Just found the data:

Adults 25-54:

ABC $64,000
NBC $60,000
CBS $59,000
FOX $53,000

Of the top 20 shows of 4th quarter 2006 with the highest income, only 3 were on CBS. Amazing Race, 60 Minutes, and Two And A Half Men.

And with 60 Minutes, it skews O-L-D.

The Class would've been perfect for ABC.

CBS is much more of a conservative network. Go to the map, see where Bush won the election, and you've got CBS pegged.

You can add HIMYM and Old Christine to the list of shows that don't fit CBS.

Just like Justice belonged on CBS. Would've been a great show for them.

Sorry for the IQ comment ... conservative would be a better description.

The conservative states and people 55+ ... that is the CBS audience.

Neither "The Class" nor "Jericho" speak to them.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
So when did IQ equate to income or "sophistication" ?

It is the "lower IQ" people like you that want to stero type everything and everyone.

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Go check out the average household income of a CBS viewer versus ABC or NBC. That is my point.

Just found the data:

Adults 25-54:

ABC $64,000
NBC $60,000
CBS $59,000
FOX $53,000

Of the top 20 shows of 4th quarter 2006 with the highest income, only 3 were on CBS. Amazing Race, 60 Minutes, and Two And A Half Men.

And with 60 Minutes, it skews O-L-D.

The Class would've been perfect for ABC.

CBS is much more of a conservative network. Go to the map, see where Bush won the election, and you've got CBS pegged.

You can add HIMYM and Old Christine to the list of shows that don't fit CBS.

Just like Justice belonged on CBS. Would've been a great show for them.

Moonlight" takes the slot most observers were expecting to go to the zombie dramedy "Babylon Fields," which is still believed to at least be in contention for a midseason slot, along with the LL Cool J vehicle "The Man" and "Skip Tracer," which stars Stephen Dorff.

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Originally posted by NYHunter:
Does anyone know what ever happened to Bablyon Fields? That was like the most buzzed about CBS pilot up until recently.

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Sorry for the IQ comment ... conservative would be a better description.

The conservative states and people 55+ ... that is the CBS audience.

Neither "The Class" nor "Jericho" speak to them.

No, I believe it was be JUST an average show that turned them away. Remember Jericho premired to very good numbers, then the slide began with Episode #2.

The Class wasn't as good in the beginning and by the time it did get better, it was too late to get those lost viewers back.