Worse than all said thus far, it is a
dumb move from a demo standpoint. The
hour is crying out for a younger slanting
show, with BL below 3 and SVU having
dropped below a 4. SHARK will clear 3,
but not by much. This is almost a dump
move, into an hour that really is an
hour of opportunity. Very strange, if
it happens.

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I wouldn't say it's "not right" (and I watch both Shark and BL)...the net is making the move to attempt to sure up a weak timeslot, but I don't think Shark is going to do that well on Tuesday.

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Originally posted by Keith1990:

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Originally posted by swarheit:
Add me to the list of people who doesn't like Shark moving to Tuesday. Outside of the Law & Orders, right now, the only real legal dramas on TV are Shark and Boston Legal, and now they are going to be head-to-head. Selfishly (being a law student and fan of both shows) I don't like them going head-to-head, but one would think this is going to be bad for both shows, splitting the audience interested in legal/courtroom dramas (even though Boston Legal and Shark are very very different shows with much different tones, but still)

-Scott

I agree with you. I didn't realize these shows would be going against eachother. I hate when networks to that. It's not right and neither, in my opinion, will never achieve huge success.

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Oh please no newest rumor is The Man possibly put on in The Unit timeslot and The Unit getting a 13 episodes renewal UGH !! Have no desire watching The Man and could care less about seeing a new series premiere in what The Unit was already doing impressive in .. I admit The Unit lost some but still maintaining the approx. 10+ million viewers despite going against House and DWTS is impressive nonetheless so why lose the already establishe momentum .. Makes no sense to me

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Well the Man was one of the better sounding CBS pilots and they should pick up at least one procedural (although this one sounds a bit different).

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Originally posted by Pam:
Oh please no newest runor id The Man possibly put on in The Unit timeslot and The Unit getting a 13 episodes renewal UGH !! Have no desire watching The Man and could care less about seeing a new series premiere in what The Unit was already doing impressive in .. I admit The Unit lost some but still maintaining the approx. 10+ million viewers despite going against House and DWTS is impressive nonetheless so why lose the already establishe momentum .. Makes no sense to me

Could care less about The Man or how it fared - I like The Unit and like it where it is at and IMO CBS is making way too many waves in their schedule and it has a big potential backfiring too ..
Time will tell but if CBS has no respect for the fans of this show or The Unit why should I care about CBS ?

Sorry if I sound disgruntled and whiny but The Unit is the only show I still make a point of watching and actually enjoy ..I guess I should feel grateful the rumor states The Unit will come back with 13 episodes but still any hiatus has been doomsday for shows and with The Unit still holding its own despite losing some I cannot understand why CBS can't premiere The Man by having it take the place of a show not doing anything for CBS or trying to get it established on one of its weaker nights to maybe get people watching. Why can't CBS simply let The Unit alone and keep it where it is still doing decent and keeping viewers ?

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Originally posted by Pam:
Sorry if I sound disgruntled and whiny but The Unit is the only show I still make a point of watching and actually enjoy ..I guess I should feel grateful the rumor states The Unit will come back with 13 episodes but still any hiatus has been doomsday for shows and with The Unit still holding its own despite losing some I cannot understand why CBS can't premiere The Man by having it take the place of a show not doing anything for CBS or trying to get it established on one of its weaker nights to maybe get people watching. Why can't CBS simply let The Unit alone and keep it where it is still doing decent and keeping viewers ?

The Unit *is* one of CBS's weaker shows. I don't think it is out of the question that something else be tried. I understand that it sucks to lose a show, but I don't think you can say CBS is picking on The Unit.

The Unit is not one of the weaker shows by any means pulling in an approx 10 million viewers weekly and it still is maintaining respectful ratings and viewership ..
Seems to me the point of the network would be keeping the current viewers intact and building viewership not getting rid of shows still bringing in substancial ratings and sacrificing them to try out new shows which often do not work out anyway .
I understand CBS wants to build a solid network but ditching the shows the majority of people still are watching is not the way to do it..
The Unit coming in third place is still doing better than other drama shows and comedies already renewed or being considered for renewal ..
CBS will do what it wants but sheesh why do I get the feeling either all these new shows or 80 % will fail anyway so what the point really ?

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I also like The Unit, but yes, it is one of their weaker shows, ratings-wise. I'm not sure what its average is right now, but The Unit has pulled less than a 3.0 in 18-49 a few times of late. This is low for a (non-Friday or Saturday) CBS show.

Ratings for The Unit are consistently in the top 20-30 so that's nothing horrible IMO ..
It still is one of the higher rated shows for CBS and yes the demos aren't the best but this thing about demos is stupid to me !!
Maybe the show is under the 3.0 but it is still a series worth sticking . When push comes to shove The Unit is still holding its own and what more does CBS want ?
Why does the demos effect every television series ? Why so much importance on the younger viewers compared to the older ?
I'm naive about these things but when every week for new episodes The Unit is consistent about being in the top 20-40 out of 100+ shows I do not understand how it could be on the bubble ?
Here's to hoping The Unit does come back and yes even if it is for 13 episodes ( though I prefer 22 episodes again ) I'll be watching but as for The Man - not interested and it does not sound great at all ..

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I also hope that it comes back. I'm just pointing out that CBS is the strongest network in viewers. Costs continue to go up and ratings for the broadcast networks continue to erode. In order to make money, they need to do well in the 18-49 demo, which is - rightly or wrongly - what advertisers pay the big bucks for. On ABC, The Unit would have been renewed already because that net has so many holes. As has been mentioned here before, if CBS just stays the course too much, they will turn into NBC. No new shows, means no potential new hits. All this being said, I'm quite confident that CBS will renew The Unit, at least for 13 eps. Starting in midseason is not a bad idea, as it would allow the show to air all new eps. (The Unit repeats poorly.)

The Unit pulled in 10.73 million viewers and a 3.1 A 18-49 on Tuesday...skewing more towards the demo than the entire CBS Friday lineup and demo retention out of NCIS (which skews towards ancient folks) was at 100%. Last week was one of the better performances of late for The Unit.

The reason it is/was on the bubble is basically all of CBS' shows are in the top 30-40 when they are original episodes. CBS' goal is to get younger which is why they have considered canceling Close to Home among others. And while the obsession with demo viewers may not make sense to some, it is the demo that the advertisers want and thus the networks want. It's all about the $$$$$$$$.

Sorry, Pam, but I agree with the rest of the board although I am also a fan of the show. The Unit has lost a sizeable audience in term sof both overall viewers and the demo over the past season, and with the exception of the last couple of episodes, the quality of the show during the second half of the year has been horrible. I still can't get over that atrocious witch doctor episode.

I think this move is the best for both CBS and the show. The network gets to try out a new program that has the potential to bring in some additional viewers for the night, and The Unit has some additional time to produce some higher quality episodes. Personally, I think that they should 24-ize the show, and instead of having self-contained missions each episode, they should have a season-long mission to play alongside the continuing homefront storylines.

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I think this move is the best for both CBS and the show. The network gets to try out a new program that has the potential to bring in some additional viewers for the night, and The Unit has some additional time to produce some higher quality episodes. Personally, I think that they should 24-ize the show, and instead of having self-contained missions each episode, they should have a season-long mission to play alongside the continuing homefront storylines

I agree and disagree .. I agree about doing story arcs since I've often felt that was the way to go but the season-long mission has no appeal for me . One aspect I really enjoy among others is the interaction between the Husbands/Wives and watch this series for both the men and women and feel each group has their own importance.. I enjoy the missions but do not want to see mission plots nonstop nor do I want to see anymore infidelity plots .
I agree some of the shows in season 2 weren't the best and can see the reasoning behind the 13 episodes but hate to see The Unit get cut in half and feel season 3 could be the best yet with better writing and much more character development which was lacking more times than not in season 2 .

Well honestly, the Man could probably pull a better demo number and that's what CBS is all about. A midseason deal would likely see it land back on Tuesday or possibly on Friday or Sunday.

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Originally posted by Pam:
Sorry if I sound disgruntled and whiny but The Unit is the only show I still make a point of watching and actually enjoy ..I guess I should feel grateful the rumor states The Unit will come back with 13 episodes but still any hiatus has been doomsday for shows and with The Unit still holding its own despite losing some I cannot understand why CBS can't premiere The Man by having it take the place of a show not doing anything for CBS or trying to get it established on one of its weaker nights to maybe get people watching. Why can't CBS simply let The Unit alone and keep it where it is still doing decent and keeping viewers ?

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Well honestly, the Man could probably pull a better demo number and that's what CBS is all about. A midseason deal would likely see it land back on Tuesday or possibly on Friday or Sunday.

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And The Man could bring in worse demos and be a big mistake as often happens whenever a new series is introduced in place of one already established ..
The Unit works great on Tuesdays and should be kept there too not bounced around which is never accomplishing anything ..
Bring The Man on in one of the weaker nights and try it out thereby getting people to watch which would be more beneficial especially if people stick around .