Oh how I miss my Fashion House... (Desire though left much to be "Desired".) I think I get about every possible channel (even Distant Networks so that i can watch Judge Judy at 6pm & 6:30pm from the San Francisco feed when I get home from "work") with DishNetwork with the exception of the Logo network, which ticks me off now that they have the Democratic Debates coming up on that network.... As much as I like Dish, they don't seem to support GLBT TV like our local cable or DirectTV - but I've digressed now.

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Originally posted by dumont:
If not for your early praise of Fashion House, I might never have given MyNetworkTV a try and in so doing discovering its superlative telenovella genre (so sadly soon disappearing).

Now, I take careful note of all your recommendations, and your tastes are impeccable.

Unfortunately for me, you get more cable stations than I do, so for some of your series picks, I must await DVD releases.

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Your picks rock!

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Originally posted by dumont:
ROSTER METHOD D:
75. 30 Rock (NBC) 3.840 M [1.00x]
88. On The Lot (FOX) 2.940 M [1.28x]
100. Supernatural (CW) 1.735 M [1.00x]
botWC: Masters of Science Fiction (ABC) [0.96x]
botWC: Late Show with David Letterman (CBS) 4.094 M [1.12x]

To all PIFC players:

I've now reached a period of time of uncertainty, concerning the amount of ratings data that I can receive.

Recently, my volume of ratings information, especially for cable programs, has dramatically decreased due to internet restrictions, prompting some of my requests on this forum for some assistance in prior weeks.

Of course, the viewer numbers for broadcast network shows will always be used in games but viewer numbers for cable programs, daytime, midday and late night programs are now up in the air, including this current game.

Now, I don't know if I can receive ratings for these specific programs in the near future - perhaps I could. However, I should let you all know that due to this uncertainty, expect to see a lot less entries in the cable and sports categories in future games.

My game has included cable shows that do not get any mentions by TravisYanan's final nationals posts so I'm left in the dark, but I can't fault Travis for not posting numbers on shows like "Sunday Night Baseball" and "Bronx Is Burning" because what he does provide is a big, big plus.

Travis, I know you haven't participated in a PIFC game since Game #23 but indirectly, your final nationals of select cable shows has been a giant help, no doubt. I, and the rest of this forum, appreciate it very much.

Like I've written before, this is what has been holding me up since Game #28, in terms of posting "final" standings. Soon, I may have to make some determination on how to handle the "missing" data for the cable shows. If you have any suggestions, please post.

The PIFC will continue to roll along every week, despite this recent dilemma. I just hope for the best for the PIFC in the near future.

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Now, I don't know if I can receive ratings for these specific programs in the near future - perhaps I could. However, I should let you all know that due to this uncertainty, expect to see a lot less entries in the cable and sports categories in future games.

1st, This is not a problem, IMO. We will make due with what ever is available. This is a Great game no matter what we have to select from.

I know a couple of sources I found, and posted just have HH ratings. I think it is totally OK to use the HH raings = X million homes conversion and use that number as the number of viewers.

Are their specific shows/events you need ANY info on? Is the missing info on certain types of shows or isolated Networks? We'll do anything we can to help ya out, Douglas.

Back to Douglas,

Are the shows missing info on active rosters or just needed to set up the final ranking of shows?

If the missing shows are not on rosters, I suggest we just throw them out and not count them

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Are their specific shows/events you need ANY info on? Is the missing info on certain types of shows or isolated Networks? We'll do anything we can to help ya out, Douglas.

TV-aholic, I appreciate your links to those cable lists. It's among the best data I've received all month, short of the limited Zap 2 it's lists and of course, Travis' nationals posts. Thanks.

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Are the shows missing info on active rosters or just needed to set up the final ranking of shows?

If the missing shows are not on rosters, I suggest we just throw them out and not count them

Both. I'm still including them in this game because I still think I can get info for most of the shows there but for some of them, it's gonna be "pick-them-at-your-own-risk"

ROSTER METHOD A:
2. America's Got Talent (NBC) 11.220 M [1.00x]
midWC: The Closer (TNT; replacing CBS entry) 7.341 M [(3264/3040)x]
63. WWE Friday Night Smackdown! (CW) 4.138 M [1.00x]
botWC: Disney Channel's Most-Watched Program of the Week (DISN; replacing ABC entry) 4.218 M [(240/133)x]
botWC: NFL Preseason 2007: Indianapolis at Dallas (FOX) IND at STL on aug 10 2006: 5.597 M [3.84x]

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
1st, This is not a problem, IMO. We will make due with what ever is available. This is a Great game no matter what we have to select from.

I second that statement.

Douglas, what shows are you missing info for?
Would something like the Top25 cable shows for the week help, like this listing?

How far down this type of list would you have to get before the shows were scoring zero points anyway?


If you have to resort to using limited information that results in some shows being zeroed out, how about setting a deadline? Something like: 'any show without final ratings data inside three weeks scores a zero'.

ROSTER METHOD A:
4. So You Think You Can Dance (FOX) 10.270 M [1.28x]
16. Criminal Minds (CBS) 7.680 M [1.00x]
42. Law and Order: Criminal Intent (NBC) 5.090 M [1.00x]
46. 20/20 (ABC) 5.810 M [1.00x]
63. WWE Friday Night Smackdown! (CW) 4.138 M [1.00x]

ROSTER METHOD A:
topWC: NFL Preseason 2007: Seattle at San Diego (NBC) WSH at CIN on aug 13 2006: 8.742 M [4.00x]
botWC: NFL Preseason 2007: Chicago at Indianapolis (ESPN; replacing FOX entry) DAL at NO on aug 21 2006: 6.581 M [(3264/720)x]
botWC: NFL Preseason 2007: Buffalo at New Orleans (CBS) NE at ATL on aug 11 2006: 5.107 M [3.84x]
botWC: Good Morning America (ABC) 4.844 M [1.12x]
botWC: My Boys (season premiere) (TBS; replacing CW entry) last season: 1.783 M [(80/10)x]

ROSTER METHOD A:
2. America's Got Talent (NBC) 11.220 M [1.00x]
midWC: The Closer (TNT; replacing FOX entry) 7.341 M [(3264/3040)x]
63. WWE Friday Night Smackdown! (CW) 4.138 M [1.00x]
botWC: Disney Channel's Most-Watched Program of the Week (DISN; replacing ABC entry) 4.218 M [(240/133)x]
botWC: Price Is Right (CBS) 5.901 M [1.12x]

quote:

Statgirl,

I just noticed you are not using your Champions Icon.

What Gives???

I think it's just my post in the last game that's missing the signature - I must have deselected the Signature box.

ROSTER METHOD A:
2. America's Got Talent (NBC) 11.220 M [1.00x]
midWC: The Closer (TNT; replacing FOX entry) 7.341 M [(3264/3040)x]
63. WWE Friday Night Smackdown! (CW) 4.138 M [1.00x]
botWC: America's Funniest Home Videos (ABC) 5.630 M [0.96x]
botWC: NFL Preseason 2007: Buffalo at New Orleans (CBS) NE at ATL on aug 11 2006: 5.107 M [3.84x]

ROSTER METHOD A:
10. Hell's Kitchen 3 (FOX) 8.200 M [1.28x]
36. American Inventor (ABC) 6.580 M [3.84x]
63. WWE Friday Night Smackdown! (CW) 4.138 M [1.00x]
botWC: Monk (USA; replacing NBC entry) 4.849 M [(240/185)x]
botWC: The Young and the Restless (CBS) 5.628 M [1.12x]

Sports TV Ratings
from http://everythingbutthegame.blogspot.com

July 16 - July 22

4.1/12 ABC SUN British Open Final round
2.7/8 ABC SAT British Open Third round
2.5/6 FOX SAT MLB Regional action
1.9/5 ABC SUN IRL Honda 200
1.2 ESPN SAT MLS David Beckham Debut
1.1/3 ABC SUN British Open Highlights
1.0/3 ABC SAT British Open Highlights
0.9/2 NBC SAT AVP Bud Light Long Beach Open Women's Final
0.9 NBC SUN AVP Bud Light Long Beach Open Men's Final
0.8/2 NBC SUN AST Dew Tour Right Guard Open
0.8/2 FOX SUN MotoGP Red Bull Grand Prix
0.8/2 CBS SAT NTRA Grand Slam of Grass Virginia Derby
0.7/2 CBS SAT LPGA Tour HSBC Women's World Match Play Championship Third Round
0.7/2 CBS SUN LPGA Tour HSBC Women's World Match Play Championship Final Round
0.6/2 CBS SUN Tour de France Highlights
0.6/2 NBC SAT AST Dew Tour Right Guard Open
0.5/1 CBS SUN American Le Mans Series Acura Sports Car Challenge of Mid-Ohio

The final Nielsen ratings are in for David Beckham's MLS debut on ESPN. The game, broadcast on Saturday July 21 at 9 p.m. ET, was seen in an average of 947,000 television homes by almost 1.5 million viewers.

July 9 - July 15

2.3/6 FOX SAT MLB Baseball
1.7/4 ABC SAT NASCAR Busch USG Durock 300
1.3/3 CBS SUN PGA Tour John Deere Classic
1.0/3 CBS SAT PGA Tour John Deere Classic
1.0/2 NBC SUN Golf American Century
0.9/2 NBC SUN Hy Vee ITU World Cup
0.8/2 ABC SAT NASCAR Countdown
0.8/2 ABC SUN WNBA All Star Game
0.7/2 CBS SUN Tour de France Highlights
0.7/2 CBS SUN Grand Prix of Germany
0.7/2 NBC SAT Golf American Century
0.6/2 CBS SAT SPT SP
0.6/1 ABC SUN British Open Preview
0.5/1 NBC SAT SPT SP 7/14

July 2 - July 8

3.2/9 NBC SUN Wimbledon final on NBC, Federer/Nadal
2.9/7 CBS SUN PGA AT&T National Final Round
2.8/8 NBC SAT Wimbledon final, V. Williams/Bartoli
2.8/7 FOX SAT MLB Angels/Yankees
2.0/5 CBA SAT PGA Tour AT&T National Third Round
1.2/3 NBC SUN U.S. Senior Open Final Round
1.1/3 NBC SAT U.S. Senior Open Third Round
1.0/1 ABC SUN IRL Watkins Glen Indy Grand Prix
0.9/2 FOX SUN F1 Santander British Grand Prix
0.6/2 CBS SUN American Le Mans Series, Northeast Grand Prix

NASCAR Ratings Data

Charlotte - Fox 5/27: 4.5/10
Dover - Fox 6/3: 2.3/7
Pocono - TNT 6/10: 3.0
Michigan - TNT 6/17: 3.3
Sonoma - TNT 6/24: 4/7
Loudon NH - TNT 7/1: 3.4
Daytona - TNT 7/7: 3.8, 6,162,000 viewers
Chicago - TNT 7/15: 4.0, 6,365,000 viewers

News Ratings for May 2007

News Rankings for June 2007

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