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My first impressions are that I'm sad that Crossing Jordan got cancelled, but glad that Donnie Trump's show got the ax. (were they filming Apprentice:Chicago yet?)

Also, despite the title, I think FNL should have been as a mid-season replacement and switched with Medium. I think it meshes with taking the football when the NFL has completed their season on Sunday Nights, and the audience works better on Friday Nights for Medium.

Although Friday at 10pm has been the place for Quality for Homicide, its been made into the DEATH SLOT for recent shows like Boomtown and L&O:TBJ.

I also think Bionic Woman would have been better either preceeding or following Heroes.

I have no hope for The IT Guys, becuase Joel McHale is in it. And Life sounds like a bad premise to start with.

Soory Raines didn't make it, but I didn't expect it to anyways.

With this line-up, I expect NBC to continue as the #4 network, but Zuker will keep his job.


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Posts: 516 | Location: Seattle | Registered: 16 March 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Thanks SW. I guess the show went downhill in the last season. Maybe it got too campy? I still loved the show!

The new rendition looks maybe a little too dark, but I'll check it out!

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Originally posted by SW:
Bionic Woman finished 5th for its first season on ABC and 14th its second. The ratings were lower (below the top 30) during its season on NBC.
 
Posts: 239 | Location: Toronto | Registered: 08 December 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I'm alarmed by the gimmicky nature of some of this schedule. 30 hours of The Office? Can the writers sustain the quality for so many episodes?

Introducing Heroes characters via an online game tie-in seems cheesy. I'm reminded of an old episode of Matlock from the 80s in which audience members called in during an episode to vote for whodunit. NBC aping Matlock? Heh.

Jerry Seinfeld getting multiple mini-episodes as long-form commercials for his upcoming Bee Movie? Is there an audience for infomercials in primetime?
 
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I don't see how NBC can be any more aggressive. They moved their best comedy THE OFFICE against GREY'S and CSI, and keeping HEROES where it's been successful allows them to launch a compatible show at 10pm on Mondays. Other than L&O SVU, what other shows are worthy of being scheduled in an "aggressive" move? They already added another DEAL OR NO DEAL Eeker
 
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I'm alarmed by the gimmicky nature of some of this schedule. 30 hours of The Office? Can the writers sustain the quality for so many episodes?

It is not 30 hours, but 30 episodes.


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Posts: 16422 | Location: Indiana | Registered: 20 September 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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And the JOURNEYMAN pairing w/HEROES is
one of few aspects of new schedule that
makes sense. While you can go overboard
with compatibility with very creative
shows, sometimes inviting negative
comparisons between the two, the focus
on a central character w/JOURNEYMAN
should be contrast enough. Also,
hopefully the show will not move at
140 mph.

FNL - I think there's something cynical
about the handling of this show. I like
it. Net says they like it. Critics liked
it. Ratings didn't figure to be good
anywhere. But this slot says, 'thanks for
letting us look virtuous to the critics,
WE'LL be home watching you on fridays
(right), and goodbye.' And while some will
say the show is lucky to have any time
period, the net could have done better
with something else here, and FNL could
have done better elsewhere.


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Originally posted by tvfan300:
Ditto. I'll probably try Journeyman on Monday because there is nothing else that is must-see in that timeslot. FNL on Friday is an awful idea. And at 10 pm will prove two wrongs don't make a right.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
I've never been a big NBC viewer and I don't intend on becoming one with this lineup. Sorry 30 Rockites, the new timeslot won't help things. Earl and 30 Rock are about as compatible as According to Jim and Notes from the Underbelly.
 
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Well, I'm going to disagree with the group.
I think that the four new fall dramas sound pretty good.
But they will be hurt by the declining fortunes of NBC's returning line-up.

Journeyman goes into a spot that isn't that competitive.
Chuck will have a hard road against House.

The Bionic Woman and Life may do fairly well.
Wednesday night isn't that tough in the fall.
Criminal Minds, CSI: New York, and Lost, just aren't that strong.

I think that NBC's main problems this fall will be:
a rapidly falling Deal or No Deal,
a slowly fading Heroes,
The Biggest Loser,
Thursday night,
and Friday Night Lights.
 
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I agree Frazier. NBC is in such a bad situation right now that I am not sure, other than putting new shows in different slots, what more they could have done.

They actually might have been too aggressive. History has shown that debuting too many shows at once could be a big mistake. There is only so much marketing power that one network could devote. NBC is debuting new shows on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and moving the Office to a new timeslot on Thursday. How is this not aggressive? If people want to complain about the shows NBC picked, fine. Or if they want to compain about timeslots, fine. But to make empty statements about NBC not being aggressive, or to just say "NBC is stupid", etc, etc is just ridiculous.

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Originally posted by Frazier:
I don't see how NBC can be any more aggressive. They moved their best comedy THE OFFICE against GREY'S and CSI, and keeping HEROES where it's been successful allows them to launch a compatible show at 10pm on Mondays. Other than L&O SVU, what other shows are worthy of being scheduled in an "aggressive" move? They already added another DEAL OR NO DEAL Eeker
 
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Early speculation is that FOX will air House at 8PM this fall, so maybe Chuck will have less competition that people think. But we will have to see what ABC and CBS program in that hour. (Oh yes Dumont, we will have to see what MNTV programs there too. Wink)

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Originally posted by Cobo:
Well, I'm going to disagree with the group.
I think that the four new fall dramas sound pretty good.
But they will be hurt by the declining fortunes of NBC's returning line-up.

Journeyman goes into a spot that isn't that competitive.
Chuck will have a hard road against House.

The Bionic Woman and Life may do fairly well.
Wednesday night isn't that tough in the fall.
Criminal Minds, CSI: New York, and Lost, just aren't that strong.

I think that NBC's main problems this fall will be:
a rapidly falling Deal or No Deal,
a slowly fading Heroes,
The Biggest Loser,
Thursday night,
and Friday Night Lights.
 
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Criminal Minds, CSI: New York, and Lost, just aren't that strong.

Naaaaah, their just in the Top 15-20 most of the time. Roll Eyes


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Just read a story that states that Fred Thompson may be gone from "Law & Order" next season, even if he does NOT run for President.


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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
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I'm alarmed by the gimmicky nature of some of this schedule. 30 hours of The Office? Can the writers sustain the quality for so many episodes?

It is not 30 hours, but 30 episodes.


A slip of the keyboard. Thanks for the correction. My point still stands, though.
 
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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
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Criminal Minds, CSI: New York, and Lost, just aren't that strong.

Naaaaah, their just in the Top 15-20 most of the time. Roll Eyes


And the CBS shows probably returning to
14-15mm range in fall, and LOST perhaps
getting something of a new lease on life
next season. When I see two new shows
on NBC on Wed, with the most buzz being
about the previous incarnation of BIONIC
WOMAN, this looks like their "Oh, what
the hell" nite. And regardless of what
some very put-out GA fans think of the
spinoff, if that airs at 9 Wed, NBC can
put a line through some more potential
viewers.
 
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I love all these comments about "this show won't survive against House", "this show won't survive against Greys", etc. So should NBC just put on dead air or countless episodes of Dateline against all of the big ratings winners on the other networks? And just give up?
 
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What, a writer in the 21st centruy can't do what those in the 1960's did?

Quality is from within the quality of the writers, not the quantity of the episodes.

An extra 5 or 6 episodes will not make a difference in the "quality".

Think of the glas being 3/4 full, not 1/4 empty.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
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I'm alarmed by the gimmicky nature of some of this schedule. 30 hours of The Office? Can the writers sustain the quality for so many episodes?

It is not 30 hours, but 30 episodes.


A slip of the keyboard. Thanks for the correction. My point still stands, though.


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