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Originally posted by Legends:
NBC has tried multicams since Friends ended: Twenty Good Years, Teachers, Joey, Committed, and Four Kings; all which did poorly in the end; My Name Is Earl premiered with over 15 million viewers, The Office is doing well, and they're trying to get 30 Rock up along with those shows.

So if single camera comedies work for them, they should stick with them. I personally think ABC should stick with hour long dramedies, like Desperate Housewives and Ugly Betty, CBS should stick with multicams, and FOX and CW... they should just keep trying (though FOX does well with animated comedies).

Yes NBC cant do well with multi-camera, but there single cameras cant do well either. Earl started out with 15.2 rating and had an average of 10.9 million viewers for the season. Season 2 had an average of 8.9 million viewers, and I believe the 3rd season is currently at 7.7 million viewers. So, I think that Earl will be done shortly (2 more seasons?)

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Originally posted by Legends:
NBC has tried multicams since Friends ended: Twenty Good Years, Teachers, Joey, Committed, and Four Kings; all which did poorly in the end; My Name Is Earl premiered with over 15 million viewers, The Office is doing well, and they're trying to get 30 Rock up along with those shows.

So if single camera comedies work for them, they should stick with them. I personally think ABC should stick with hour long dramedies, like Desperate Housewives and Ugly Betty, CBS should stick with multicams, and FOX and CW... they should just keep trying (though FOX does well with animated comedies).

I recall Earl debuting with 14 million viewers.
Also, single cam comedies do not do well for them, I don't see them getting 16 million like Two and a Half Men.

NBC's multicamera comedies were downright trash for the past 5 years, probably longer as the last few seasons, NBC was unable to use Friends to launch anything. Credit moronic management here and its not about to get any better with Ben Silverman.

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Originally posted by Justin:

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Originally posted by Legends:
NBC has tried multicams since Friends ended: Twenty Good Years, Teachers, Joey, Committed, and Four Kings; all which did poorly in the end; My Name Is Earl premiered with over 15 million viewers, The Office is doing well, and they're trying to get 30 Rock up along with those shows.

So if single camera comedies work for them, they should stick with them. I personally think ABC should stick with hour long dramedies, like Desperate Housewives and Ugly Betty, CBS should stick with multicams, and FOX and CW... they should just keep trying (though FOX does well with animated comedies).

I recall Earl debuting with 14 million viewers.
Also, single cam comedies do not do well for them, I don't see them getting 16 million like Two and a Half Men.

Earl definitely premiered with over 15 mil; from wikipedia: The series premiere on September 20, 2005, drew in 15.2 million viewers in the United States, earning a 6.6 rating. By the airing of the third episode it was apparent that My Name Is Earl was the most popular of NBC's new fall offerings, and a full season (22 episodes) was ordered.[1]

And on another note, NBC hasnt given up on multicamera comedies all together, they do have Man of Your Dreams (exec producer Conan O'Brien) in development and its already been casted.

Also, The Office doesnt get huge ratings when it comes to viewers, but its demo in adults 18-49 is always great for NBC, then when it was on iTunes, it was one of the top selling shows, its DVDs do amazingly well, and its been pretty popular on NBC's site, so I wouldnt be surprised if NBC charged a bit more for ads during that series. Not only that, its now in syndication. I mean, yeah, NBC would love if the show was averaging 16 million but the amount of viewers that it gets isnt the only factor on why that series or any other show lasts or if its considered a "success."

Why else would ABC be trying to get Scrubs? They'll make money (along with renewing According To Jim) by picking up the series. Especially in syndication.

And Two & A Half Men doesnt even get 16mil anymore and no other CBS comedy even does nearly as well, and the shows that air after Two & A Half tend to do awful when it doesnt have that as a lead in. Multicams just arent doing as well as they use to in general.

I think that NBC just has a love affair with Friday Night Lights. I never watched a full episode of it or Las Vegas, but I think that Las Vegas is more deserving of renewal. Vegas got pushed back an hour, so Lights could get the Deal or No Deal run off and the result was it hurt Vegas and Lights never took off.

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Originally posted by AL:
When I watch a comedy I laugh when something is funny. If you need a laugh track to tell when to laugh, then apparently there is a problem. Either the show is simply not funny, and you are just trained to laugh when the laugh track goes off, or you just don't get the humor (which is fine).

Whether I'm watching a singlecam or multicam comedy, I laugh about the same amount. It's not very much (nowhere near twenty times in one episode), but the laugh track has almost no influence on me.

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from wikipedia

Oh yeah, that's really resourseful. Turn in any research papers, and have that, a public site where ANYONE can post ANYTHING, and see what credit you get.

And the number I had in my head was the fast nationals, so I was not incorrect, just referred to the wrong number:

From MB: (9.20.05)
My Name Is Earl at 9 p.m. debuted with a solid 10.3/15 in the overnights (#1t), 14.94 million viewers (#1), and a 6.4/16 among adults 18-49 (#1), building from lead-in The Biggest Loser 2 (Overnights: #3, 5.7/ 9; Viewers: #3, 7.86 million; A18-49: #2, 3.4/ 9 at 8 p.m.) by a hefty 81 percent in the overnights, 7.08 million viewers and 88 percent among adults 18-49.

So clearly something has gone wrong with Earl over the past two years.

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Originally posted by Justin:

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from wikipedia

Oh yeah, that's really resourseful. Turn in any research papers, and have that, a public site where ANYONE can post ANYTHING, and see what credit you get.

And the number I had in my head was the fast nationals, so I was not incorrect, just referred to the wrong number:

From MB: (9.20.05)
My Name Is Earl at 9 p.m. debuted with a solid 10.3/15 in the overnights (#1t), 14.94 million viewers (#1), and a 6.4/16 among adults 18-49 (#1), building from lead-in The Biggest Loser 2 (Overnights: #3, 5.7/ 9; Viewers: #3, 7.86 million; A18-49: #2, 3.4/ 9 at 8 p.m.) by a hefty 81 percent in the overnights, 7.08 million viewers and 88 percent among adults 18-49.

So clearly something has gone wrong with Earl over the past two years.

And according to VARIETY (is that official enough for you?), this is how My Name Is Earl premiered: According to Nielsen, 20th Century Fox Television's "My Name Is Earl" averaged a 6.6 rating/16 share in adults 18-49 and 15.25 million viewers overall, winning the 9 o'clock half-hour across the board. (article: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117929456.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&s=h&p=0)

And of course I know about Wikipedia; posting ratings for a television series is nowhere near the same as doing a research paper. And what I posted was cited, so if its "cited" (aka has a valid "source") then there's no reason to believe its inaccurate.

And the only reason why "Earl" fell in the ratings was because NBC kept moving the shows timeslot. But I think it was necessary if NBC wanted to establish Thursday night comedies again.

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And according to VARIETY (is that official enough for you?), this is how My Name Is Earl premiered: According to Nielsen, 20th Century Fox Television's "My Name Is Earl" averaged a 6.6 rating/16 share in adults 18-49 and 15.25 million viewers overall, winning the 9 o'clock half-hour across the board. (article: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117929456.html?categoryid=14&cs=1&s=h&p=0)

Where did I say that you were incorrect? I have my source for finals, too.

And yes, of course NBC ruined Earl by moving it everywhere on the schedule, because NBC can't do anything right these days.

NBC has singlehandedly ruined their own network.

My Name is Earl, I'm sure is a decent show, but according to the ratings, they have dropped by almost 50 percent.

Heroes, I can almost assure NBC executives, that fans WILL get tired of the show soon, it is just starting to become ridiculous. Ratings started pretty high in year one, dropped in season 2. For season 3, I expect them to drop further.