If they put it on on Thursday and not Monday at 10... it would be florishing
I doubt that. It would have just pulled the same numbers as 30 Rock and Scrubs did. Perhaps even worse.
It didn't matter where it would have aired, american ran, quickly, away from this show after the premiere.
I agree. I even watch Studio 60 every night, but I can definitely see why it would turn viewers off. This show could have been NBC's version of Grey's Anatomy if they had the same cast, but anyone BUT Aaron Sorkin did it. They should have gotten some like Greg Berlanti (Brothers & Sisters, Everwood) or David E Kelley (The Practice, Ally McBeal, Boston Public) to be in charge of the series; Sorkin completely alienated audiences and even though I watched most of the episodes of this show, I wont miss at all.
If they put it on on Thursday and not Monday at 10... it would be florishing
I doubt that. It would have just pulled the same numbers as 30 Rock and Scrubs did. Perhaps even worse.
It would have done as well as 30 Rock and Scrubs. More importantly, ER would have done better with the 'better' lead-in. It may have been the same number of viewers, but they would have been of a more compatible ilk.
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It didn't matter where it would have aired, american ran, quickly, away from this show after the premiere.
It is a shame that Studio 60 bashing became the 'popular thing to do'. The current plotline is based upon a hokey premise (one of the cast's brothers has been taken hostage in Afganistan), but the resulting commentary on society has been excellent. The show is doing flashbacks to 2001 and revealing the pressure of acting/speaking in a politically correct manner after 9/11 with the current plotline of acting/speaking in a politically correct manner about Afganistan/Iraq. The concept that entertainers (and all of the rest of us for that matter) are being pigeonholed by pressure groups is definitely a 'current topic' as it even touches on situations like Isaiah Washington and Michael Richards. If you haven't seen the last two episodes, that sort of connection might not seemingly make sense, but if you have seen the last two episodes, you would be very pleased with the time spent.
Very true. The cast and acting was the best part of the show - the writing/storylines was the reason I deserted way back when. I was a fan of Sorkin's Sports Night, but that could have been much better as well.
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Originally posted by Legends: I agree. I even watch Studio 60 every night, but I can definitely see why it would turn viewers off. This show could have been NBC's version of Grey's Anatomy if they had the same cast, but anyone BUT Aaron Sorkin did it. They should have gotten some like Greg Berlanti (Brothers & Sisters, Everwood) or David E Kelley (The Practice, Ally McBeal, Boston Public) to be in charge of the series; Sorkin completely alienated audiences and even though I watched most of the episodes of this show, I wont miss at all.
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This show floundered because they tried to shoehorn in the similar dialogue and plots that they did on West Wing and it just didnt work in the setting. What came across as smart and classy dialogue in the Oval Office came off as extremely pompous and artificial behind the scenes of a sketch comedy show.
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Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Very true. The cast and acting was the best part of the show - the writing/storylines was the reason I deserted way back when. I was a fan of Sorkin's Sports Night, but that could have been much better as well.
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Originally posted by Legends: I agree. I even watch Studio 60 every night, but I can definitely see why it would turn viewers off. This show could have been NBC's version of Grey's Anatomy if they had the same cast, but anyone BUT Aaron Sorkin did it. They should have gotten some like Greg Berlanti (Brothers & Sisters, Everwood) or David E Kelley (The Practice, Ally McBeal, Boston Public) to be in charge of the series; Sorkin completely alienated audiences and even though I watched most of the episodes of this show, I wont miss at all.
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Originally posted by Obveeus: It would have done as well as 30 Rock and Scrubs. More importantly, ER would have done better with the 'better' lead-in. It may have been the same number of viewers, but they would have been of a more compatible ilk.
Yes, those 4 million loyal viewer sure would've been a better lead in. And well Scrubs sucks imo, its more compatible simply because of the hospital setting.
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It is a shame that Studio 60 bashing became the 'popular thing to do'. The current plotline is based upon a hokey premise (one of the cast's brothers has been taken hostage in Afganistan), but the resulting commentary on society has been excellent. The show is doing flashbacks to 2001 and revealing the pressure of acting/speaking in a politically correct manner after 9/11 with the current plotline of acting/speaking in a politically correct manner about Afganistan/Iraq. The concept that entertainers (and all of the rest of us for that matter) are being pigeonholed by pressure groups is definitely a 'current topic' as it even touches on situations like Isaiah Washington and Michael Richards. If you haven't seen the last two episodes, that sort of connection might not seemingly make sense, but if you have seen the last two episodes, you would be very pleased with the time spent.
That stuff belonged on the West Wing, not on a show about behind the scenes of a sketch comedy series. The two do not mesh well and Sorkin is simply touting his own personal beliefs on the viewers. Even Gee hated this show and he was the epitome of low rated high quality.
Originally posted by Obveeus: It would have done as well as 30 Rock and Scrubs. More importantly, ER would have done better with the 'better' lead-in. It may have been the same number of viewers, but they would have been of a more compatible ilk.
Yes, those 4 million loyal viewer sure would've been a better lead in. And well Scrubs sucks imo, its more compatible simply because of the hospital setting.
4 million? You must be getting confused becasue of the time of year (summer) and the fact that the show has already been announced as cancelled. Back before hiatus. Studio 60 was a 7+ million show and would have provided as many or more viewers as an ER leadin than did 30 Rock and Scrubs. As for your belief that Scrubs would be a better lead-in (even though 30 Rock was in that failed role at the time) simply because both shows are set in a hospital: I think it shows how little you understand Scrubs or ER.
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It is a shame that Studio 60 bashing became the 'popular thing to do'. The current plotline is based upon a hokey premise (one of the cast's brothers has been taken hostage in Afganistan), but the resulting commentary on society has been excellent. The show is doing flashbacks to 2001 and revealing the pressure of acting/speaking in a politically correct manner after 9/11 with the current plotline of acting/speaking in a politically correct manner about Afganistan/Iraq. The concept that entertainers (and all of the rest of us for that matter) are being pigeonholed by pressure groups is definitely a 'current topic' as it even touches on situations like Isaiah Washington and Michael Richards. If you haven't seen the last two episodes, that sort of connection might not seemingly make sense, but if you have seen the last two episodes, you would be very pleased with the time spent.
That stuff belonged on the West Wing, not on a show about behind the scenes of a sketch comedy series. The two do not mesh well and Sorkin is simply touting his own personal beliefs on the viewers.
So, you think that people doing sketch comedy (a good percentage of which is about politics and religion) don't have discussions/arguments about what is or is not ok to make fun of with respect to those subjects? Your complaints about the show sound like you rread them out of a pan review. It is the same weak argument I have seen from most people that complained about the show from before it even aired. Please follow it up with a claim that the Studio 60 characters were impossible to identify with because you can't identify with TV/comedy, but you think you can identify with lawyers/doctors/cops in all the other TV shows. Then, top it all off with a complaint that the Studio 60 characters take their lives/jobs too seriously because TV people that make the top rung of success in their field would never *really* take themselves or their craft seriously. Once you have those 'talking points' memorized you can get your membership button.
Originally posted by Obveeus: Even as bad as Studio 60 ratings are, it looks lke it may have beaten some of NBC's 'The Office' marathon last night, everything on ABC last night (including a head-to-head win over Grey's Anatomy), and everything on CW last night.
Studio 60 is a much better show than its ratings reflect.
Obveeus- Finally, someone with a brain. You are on target... last night's episode was terrific... very entertaining indeed... Studio Sixty is the only series that deals with... faith... the war... the Bush administration... Rove... relevant and current events.. NBC dumps the most relevant, intelligent series on TV and keeps 2 with lower ratings. If they put it on on Thursday and not Monday at 10... it would be florishing...
Aaron Sorkin demonstrates in spades that he not only a great writer but in addition he's got balls. Finally, an individual on TV directs attention to this current administration... While news networks quake... Studio Sixty addresses the tragedy of this war in Iraq... What other show does that? Nil. Nada. None. Insread we dance, play bingo, open cases, play pirate, Trunp, basically junk television... all of it.
Studio Sixty is the best written, produced, and acted show on television.
Studio Sixty addresses the tragedy of this war in Iraq...
Which is great...if the show was called The West Wing.
Last time I checked, nearly everyone has an opinion on politics, the war, and religion. I see absolutely no reason why a TV show shouldn't cover those subjects just because it takes place in the writer's room of a sketch comedy show. Do you have any reason to believe that sketch comedy writers do not form and express opinions about politics, religion, and the Iraq war?
Well obveeusly, the poor ratings would be one reason why a TV sketch comedy show shouldn't cover those subjects - unless you don't count them as a factor.
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Originally posted by Obveeus: Last time I checked, nearly everyone has an opinion on politics, the war, and religion. I see absolutely no reason why a TV show shouldn't cover those subjects just because it takes place in the writer's room of a sketch comedy show. Do you have any reason to believe that sketch comedy writers do not form and express opinions about politics, religion, and the Iraq war?
There really is no reason why such important subjects can't be handled in all manner of settings. However, in the case of Studio 60, such issues of improtance were handled poorly, especially in the early episodes. The show found a better balance and voice later on IMO, but it was already too late by then.
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