I agree plus they like a lot of their shows, and I hope NBC realizes that canceling a lot of shows two years in a row will only turn viewers away.

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The concepts of NBC's pilots sound... um... how I can put this gently? CRAP-O-LA. I bet there are fewer cancellations than people are expecting.

Plus, the shows they aired this season are critically acclaimed, which only helps things.

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Originally posted by TheHunter:
I agree plus they like a lot of their shows, and I hope NBC realizes that canceling a lot of shows two years in a row will only turn viewers away.

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Originally posted by Riff Rafferty:
The concepts of NBC's pilots sound... um... how I can put this gently? CRAP-O-LA. I bet there are fewer cancellations than people are expecting.

Very True. I think, there are proper times to sweep all the low rated crap away but for NBC this year that would mean getting rid of everything except for Sunday Night Football, Law & Order: SVU, DOND Heroes, My Name Is Earl and The Office. And I very much doubt NBC's development slate is good enough to replace all those fall as well as midseason hours.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
Plus, the shows they aired this season are critically acclaimed, which only helps things.

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Originally posted by TheHunter:
I agree plus they like a lot of their shows, and I hope NBC realizes that canceling a lot of shows two years in a row will only turn viewers away.

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Originally posted by Riff Rafferty:
The concepts of NBC's pilots sound... um... how I can put this gently? CRAP-O-LA. I bet there are fewer cancellations than people are expecting.

NBC has too much low-rated stuff to cancel all of their bad (rated) shows. They almost have to keep shows like FNL and 30 Rock and hope they find an audience. Otherwise, their schedule would be about 2/3 new shows.

And that is a bad thing because............????

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Originally posted by tvfan300:
NBC has too much low-rated stuff to cancel all of their bad (rated) shows. They almost have to keep shows like FNL and 30 Rock and hope they find an audience. Otherwise, their schedule would be about 2/3 new shows.

I found an article about ER's status:

[03.17.05 - 12:00 AM]
NBC PICKS UP FOUR CURRENT SERIES FOR RENEWAL IN 2005-06 AND ALSO SETS 'ER' TO CONTINUE FOR TWO MORE YEARS THROUGH THE 2007-08 SEASON
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[NOTE: The following article is a press release issued by the aforementioned network and/or company. Any errors, typos, etc. are attributed to the original author. The release is reproduced solely for the dissemination of the enclosed information.]

NBC PICKS UP FOUR CURRENT SERIES FOR RENEWAL IN 2005-06 AND ALSO SETS ER TO CONTINUE FOR TWO MORE YEARS THROUGH THE 2007-08 SEASON

NBC PICKS UP FOUR CURRENT SERIES FOR RENEWAL IN 2005-06 AND ALSO SETS 'ER' TO CONTINUE FOR TWO MORE YEARS THROUGH THE 2007-08 SEASON

Network Gives New Season Orders to Proven Favorites Including Dramas "The West Wing," "Crossing Jordan," "Las Vegas" and Freshman Comedy "Joey" and Assures "ER" Will Remain on NBC for Three More Years Through the 2007-08 Season

BURBANK March 17, 2005 NBC has extended "ER" for two more years through the 2007-08 season and renewed four current series, the dramas "The West Wing," "Crossing Jordan," "Las Vegas" and the comedy "Joey," it was announced today by Kevin Reilly, President, NBC Entertainment.

"The continuing quality and popularity of these series make them the mainstays of our year-to-year schedules," said Reilly. "Coupled with our innovative current development plans, we feel we have the right mix of returning and fresh, new breakout hits for a promising 2005-06 schedule."

The Emmy Award-winning "ER" (Thursdays, 10-11 p.m. ET) is now in its 11th season (all in the same day and time period). With the addition of two more years to its existing contract, "ER" will be broadcast on NBC for three more seasons through 2007-08. The drama is currently tied with "The Apprentice 2" as NBC's top-rated series among adults 18-49 and the season's #6 series overall. "ER" is averaging a 7.8 rating, 20 share among adults 18-49 and 16.5 million viewers overall for the season.

"ER," set amid the chaos of a busy emergency room at Chicago's County General Hospital, is a winner of the prestigious George Foster Peabody Award and has also earned 21 Emmy Awards and 112 nominations breaking an all-time industry record. Also, the cast has won four Screen Actors Guild Awards for Outstanding Ensemble Performance in a Drama Series. "ER" was named Outstanding Drama Series at the Emmy Awards in 1996.

"ER" is a production of Constant c Productions and Amblin Television in association with Warner Bros. Television. Creator Michael Crichton is also an executive producer, along with John Wells ("China Beach"), Christopher Chulack and Dee Johnson.

Now in its sixth season, "The West Wing" (Wednesdays, 9-10 p.m. ET) is the winner of a record four consecutive Emmy Awards as Outstanding Drama Series. "The West Wing" delivers the highest concentrations of upscale viewers for any primetime series on any broadcast network in such key categories as adults 18-34, 18-49 and 25-54 living in homes with incomes of $100,000 and more. This season, "The West Wing" is averaging a 3.4 rating, 8 share among adults 18-49 and 11.4 million viewers overall.

Under the direction of executive producer John Wells ("ER"), the political drama has seen a popular and critical resurgence this year as it offers viewers a realistic, behind-the-scenes peek into the Oval Office as seen through the eyes of its eclectic group of frenzied staffers and the devoted First Family. In addition to the sterling regular cast led by Martin Sheen, newly added characters this season also include Emmy winner Jimmy Smits ("NYPD Blue," "L.A. Law") and Emmy winner Alan Alda ("M*A*S*H").

"The West Wing" also holds the record for most Emmys won by a series in a single season (its first). Other awards include a Peabody Award for Excellence in Television, five Golden Globe nominations and one Golden Globe Award for Best Drama Series, and three Television Critics Association Awards. "The West Wing" is from John Wells Productions in association with Warner Bros. Television Production Inc. Wells, Christopher Misiano and Alex Graves serve as executive producers. Aaron Sorkin is the creator.

"Crossing Jordan" (Sundays, 10-11 p.m. ET), starring Jill Hennessy in the title role, continues in its fourth season with a cadre of coroners eager to offer their forensic skills to the police in order to bring murderers to justice and to bring closure to the families of victims.

"Crossing Jordan" has generated a 14 percent increase for NBC this season in the Sunday 10 p.m. hour versus year-ago regular-program results. For the season, "Crossing Jordan" is averaging a 4.2 rating, 10 share among adults 18-49 and 12.1 million viewers overall.

Tim Kring ("Providence"), Dennis Hammer and Allan Arkush are the executive producers; Kring is also the creator of this production from Tailwind Productions in association with NBC Studios.

A hit since its premiere in Fall 2003, NBC's "Las Vegas" (Mondays, 9-10 p.m. ET) comes from Gary Scott Thompson -- the writer of the hit film "The Fast and the Furious" and remains a fast-paced, sexy drama concerning the elite Las Vegas surveillance team charged with maintaining the security of one of "Sin City's" largest resorts and casinos.

This season, "Las Vegas" is building on its lead-in from "Fear Factor" among adults 18-49 and is the #1 Monday series on any network for the first quarter to date in the valuable demographic of adults 18-34 (excluding football). This season, "Las Vegas" is averaging a 4.5 rating, 10 share among adults 18-49 and 11.7 million viewers overall.

Oscar and Golden Globe Award nominee James Caan and Josh Duhamel star, and Thompson also serves as executive producer along with Gardner Stern (NBC's "Law & Order," "NYPD Blue"), Scott Steindorff ("The Human Stain"), Justin Falvey ("Undeclared") and Darryl Frank ("Taken") for this series from NBC Studios and DreamWorks Television.

In "Joey" (Thursdays, 8-8:30 p.m. ET), multiple Emmy, Golden Globe and SAG Award nominee Matt LeBlanc reprises his "Friends" role as charming and still-single Joey, who has struck out on his own and moved to Hollywood, hoping to truly make it as an actor.

"Joey" is the season's #1 new comedy among adults 18-49 and total viewers. Season-to-date, "Joey" is averaging a 4.6 rating, 13 share among adults 18-49 and 11.1 million viewers overall. From Bright-San Productions and Silver and Gold Productions in association with Warner Bros. Television Production Inc., "Joey" is executive-produced by Kevin S. Bright, Scott Silveri and Shana Goldberg-Meehan.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20050317nbc05

It's not a bad thing if their pilots show promise, but I haven't heard anything good about their pilots, other then that The Bionic Woman has potential.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
And that is a bad thing because............????

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Originally posted by tvfan300:
NBC has too much low-rated stuff to cancel all of their bad (rated) shows. They almost have to keep shows like FNL and 30 Rock and hope they find an audience. Otherwise, their schedule would be about 2/3 new shows.

Oh... I love the Joey spin on that article! What a popular show that was.

Yes and Las Vegas was on a night that its audience was home so people were watching in large numbers. Almost as large as Heroes.

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Oh... I love the Joey spin on that article! What a popular show that was.

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How can you be so sure? It has been declining all along, even when it had a good lead in last year.

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Originally posted by Anthony:
It's had to lead off the evening in the weakest time slot of the week. Reruns of I Love Lucy could compete against Bones, George Lopez, and Jericho the way they are performing.

I bet if we swapped the Medium and FNL slots, Medium would come in 2nd 18-49...

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
Medium is an established series or at least it should be. The ratings for it have been sinking since day one. Friday Night Lights has had to lead off the evening so far, and NBC is almost guaranteed to bring it back. The executives love the show. Medium, on the other hand, won't give NBCU any syndication profit and like I said, continues to sink. I think the only way Medium could possibly be saved is if it moves back to Monday this season and ends quite strong after Heroes (and I think that's a long shot).

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Originally posted by Anthony:
Medium gets higher 18-49 numbers than about five of the shows you have on that list - and does so against much better competition.

FNL is getting a 1.8-2.1 vs. Bones and a bunch of mediocre shows on other nets.

GIVE ME A BREAK.

Medium's ratings didn't show a serious decline until NBC started jerking it around the schedule, causing viewers to either forget when it was finally airing, or to become so frustrated with NBC that they simply gave up trying to keep up with their incessant juggling acts. Until they moved it,it was one of the highest rated shows on the network. Medium is still a top-quality show and the fact that NBC has consigned it to its current death-slot against Lost and CSI:NY only shows what kind of morons they have running their programming department.

Does anyone remember a movie called "The Barefoot Executive"? That must be how NBC runs their programming department.

Medium hasn't been jerked around. Its aired in two timeslots.

If you'll recall, Medium was pulled from the schedule and slated to return in January on Sundays after football, then when Kidnapped flopped and NBC decided to yank it (big surprise), they pulled Medium off the shelf and plugged it into the Wednesday slot that it's in now, which is what's killing it. I'd call that jerking it around.
And as far as it's ratings declining since it premiered, show me a program that premiered with the kind of numbers that Medium had that still has those kinds of numbers. The ratings didn't show a noticeable decline until NBC moved it from Mondays. The only smart thing for them to do is renew it and move it back to Mondays after Heroes.

My take on NBC's 2007-2008 schedule :

Mondays
8/7c Deal or No Deal
9/8c Heroes
10/9c Friday Night Lights

Tuesdays
8/7c MASTERSON'S OF MANHATTAN
8.30/7.30c WILDLIFE
9/8c Law & Order : SVU
10/9c Law & Order : Criminal Intent

Wednesdays
8/7c Friday Night Lights
9/8c Deal or No Deal
10/9c LIPSTICK JUNGLE

Thursdays
8/7c My Name is Earl
8.30/7.30c ZIP
9/8c The Office
9.30/8.30c 30 Rock
10/9c ER

Fridays
8/7c 1 vs. 100
9/8c Las Vegas
10/9c Law & Order

Sundays - JANUARY THROUGH MAY
7/6c Comedy Encores, then in April, SCRUBS returns for its final 13 episodes ever, airing in double episode chunks over 7 weeks.
8/7c America's Got Talent : Performance and Results combined
10/9c Medium

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Originally posted by ryan1890:
My take on NBC's 2007-2008 schedule :

Mondays
8/7c Deal or No Deal
9/8c Heroes
10/9c Friday Night Lights

Tuesdays
8/7c MASTERSON'S OF MANHATTAN
8.30/7.30c WILDLIFE
9/8c Law & Order : SVU
10/9c Law & Order : Criminal Intent

Wednesdays
8/7c Friday Night Lights
9/8c Deal or No Deal
10/9c LIPSTICK JUNGLE

Thursdays
8/7c My Name is Earl
8.30/7.30c ZIP
9/8c The Office
9.30/8.30c 30 Rock
10/9c ER

Fridays
8/7c 1 vs. 100
9/8c Las Vegas
10/9c Law & Order

Sundays - JANUARY THROUGH MAY
7/6c Comedy Encores, then in April, SCRUBS returns for its final 13 episodes ever, airing in double episode chunks over 7 weeks.
8/7c America's Got Talent : Performance and Results combined
10/9c Medium

I love "Friday Night Lights" but...twice a week?

Yeah an obvious mistake.

CROSSING JORDAN is Wednesdays at 8/7c.

I think NBC should keep Thursday with their latest setup:

8:00/7:00 My Name Is Earl
8:30/7:30 The Office
9:00/8:00 30 Rock
9:30/8:30 Scrubs
10:00/9:00 ER

I think the frequent moving around is preventing people from getting in the routine of watching any one show. I also think all of the shows should premiere their season on the same night.

Thats It!

30 Rock is not this years Arrested Development.
Its this years JOEY!

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Oh... I love the Joey spin on that article! What a popular show that was.