Starting a new thread that will list, in order by viewers, all the NBC shows for each week.

For the Week Ending November 4, 2007

 
Net	Day	Time	Length	Program                           Viewers	Demo
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NBC	Sun	8:00	180 min	NFL Football                      16.454	6.7
NBC	Mon	9:00	60 min	Heroes                            10.514	4.9
NBC	Fri	8:00	60 min	Deal or No Deal                    9.400	2.0
NBC	Thu	10:00	60 min	ER                                 9.154	3.8
NBC	Tue	10:00	60 min	Law & Order: SVU [R]               8.630	2.9

NBC	Thu	9:00	30 min	The Office                         8.361	4.5
NBC	Fri	10:00	60 min	Las Vegas                          7.500	2.0
NBC	Thu	8:00	60 min	My Name Is Earl                    7.299	3.2
NBC	Mon	8:00	60 min	Chuck                              7.138	2.8
NBC	Sun	7:30	30 min	Football Night in America          6.740	2.9

NBC	Thu	9:30	30 min	Scrubs                             6.577	3.7
NBC	Tue	8:00	90 min	The Biggest Loser                  6.320	2.8
NBC	Wed	8:00	120 Min	Phenomenon                         6.158	2.3
NBC	Mon	10:00	60 min	Journeyman                         5.749	2.2
NBC	Wed	10:00	60 min	Life                               5.706	1.9

NBC	Tue	8:00	30 min	Singing Bee                        5.600	1.6
NBC	Fri	9:00	60 min	Friday Night Lights                5.400	1.8
NBC	Sat	10:00	60 min	Law & Order: SVU [R]               5.100	1.3
NBC	Sat	8:00	60 min	Bionic Woman [R]                   3.700	0.9
NBC	Sat	9:00	60 min	Chuck [R]                          3.400	1.0

...and people here think that ER 'needs' to be cancelled.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
...and people here think that ER 'needs' to be cancelled.

When you factor in cost of what it is to make ER and what it costs to make a new show that could probably pull those types of numbers then it is time to retire. Those numbers are no better than the two telecasts of Raines, which I have no doubt was much cheaper. It's time to move on. I suppose next we'll be hearing about how ER fans won't watch NBC if its cancelled. As if anyone's watching right now the way it is...

NBC will be in bigger trouble than it already is when football is gone.

They might pull in worse numbers in the winter/spring than FOX does in the fall.

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Originally posted by himymfan22:
NBC will be in bigger trouble than it already is when football is gone.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
...and people here think that ER 'needs' to be cancelled.

When you factor in cost of what it is to make ER and what it costs to make a new show that could probably pull those types of numbers then it is time to retire. Those numbers are no better than the two telecasts of Raines, which I have no doubt was much cheaper.

I liked Raines, but its demo number was a full point lower than what ER got, so don't pretend it did just as well in the timeslot. Take a good hard look at Bionic Woman, Chuck, Life, Journeyman, and Cane before making the claim that NBC can come up with a new show that would do as well as ER is doing.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
...and people here think that ER 'needs' to be cancelled.

When you factor in cost of what it is to make ER and what it costs to make a new show that could probably pull those types of numbers then it is time to retire. Those numbers are no better than the two telecasts of Raines, which I have no doubt was much cheaper.

I liked Raines, but its demo number was a full point lower than what ER got, so don't pretend it did just as well in the timeslot. Take a good hard look at Bionic Woman, Chuck, Life, Journeyman, and Cane before making the claim that NBC can come up with a new show that would do as well as ER is doing.

The lead in was a full point lower in the demo and about 2 million less in viewers too.

Can we-do the list like this -- as 18-49 is the only thing that matters. Ties broken by viewers.



For the Week Ending November 4, 2007

Net Day Time Length Program Viewers Demo
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NBC Sun 8:00 180 min NFL Football 16.454 6.7
NBC Mon 9:00 60 min Heroes 10.514 4.9
NBC Thu 9:00 30 min The Office 8.361 4.5
NBC Thu 10:00 60 min ER 9.154 3.8
NBC Thu 9:30 30 min Scrubs 6.577 3.7

NBC Thu 8:00 60 min My Name Is Earl 7.299 3.2
NBC Tue 10:00 60 min Law & Order: SVU [R] 8.630 2.9
NBC Sun 7:30 30 min Football Night in America 6.740 2.9
NBC Mon 8:00 60 min Chuck 7.138 2.8
NBC Tue 8:00 90 min The Biggest Loser 6.320 2.8

NBC Fri 8:00 60 min Deal or No Deal 9.400 2.0
NBC Wed 8:00 120 Min Phenomenon 6.158 2.3
NBC Mon 10:00 60 min Journeyman 5.749 2.2
NBC Fri 10:00 60 min Las Vegas 7.500 2.0
NBC Wed 10:00 60 min Life 5.706 1.9

NBC Fri 9:00 60 min Friday Night Lights 5.400 1.8
NBC Tue 8:00 30 min Singing Bee 5.600 1.6
NBC Sat 10:00 60 min Law & Order: SVU [R] 5.100 1.3
NBC Sat 8:00 60 min Bionic Woman [R] 3.700 0.9
NBC Sat 9:00 60 min Chuck [R] 3.400 1.0

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Originally posted by Anthony:
Can we-do the list like this -- as 18-49 is the only thing that matters. Ties broken by viewers.

Definitely worse...and probably worse than last spring was.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
They might pull in worse numbers in the winter/spring than FOX does in the fall.

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Originally posted by himymfan22:
NBC will be in bigger trouble than it already is when football is gone.

A tale of long-term poor development, the premature dismantling of decent ratings producers, a lack of core genre leading to an almost bizarre array of different offerings that can't be cross promoted, leading to a loss of base audience, leading to a fading brand, ending in viewers having to think what number the NBC affiliate is on their remote......

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Originally posted by Bruce:
A tale of long-term poor development, the premature dismantling of decent ratings producers, a lack of core genre leading to an almost bizarre array of different offerings that can't be cross promoted, leading to a loss of base audience, leading to a fading brand, ending in viewers having to think what number the NBC affiliate is on their remote......

NBC's problems can't be said any better.

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Originally posted by himymfan22:

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Originally posted by Bruce:
A tale of long-term poor development, the premature dismantling of decent ratings producers, a lack of core genre leading to an almost bizarre array of different offerings that can't be cross promoted, leading to a loss of base audience, leading to a fading brand, ending in viewers having to think what number the NBC affiliate is on their remote......

NBC's problems can't be said any better.

As always, great analysis. I would also add, an idiot in charge for several years who little by little broke down what was a TV whale into a TV minnow.

NBC will be in BIG trouble when the full effects of the strik start to hit.

Heck, they're in big trouble now.

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Originally posted by Bruce:
A tale of long-term poor development, the premature dismantling of decent ratings producers, a lack of core genre leading to an almost bizarre array of different offerings that can't be cross promoted, leading to a loss of base audience, leading to a fading brand, ending in viewers having to think what number the NBC affiliate is on their remote......

Too true. Most of NBC's present-day problems were kickstarted into high gear by Mother Zucker in the 2002-2003 season. He went on a cancellation brigade that season ("Providence"), played musical chairs with the schedule (one ingenious move had Tuesday's lineup preempted so he could show repeats of Thursday's), railroaded a potential Saturday hit by changing its time slot at the eleventh hour and 86ing all promotion for it ("Hunter 2003"), treated a 7-season veteran like complete garbage ("Just Shoot Me"), and gave extremely short leashes to several promising shows ("Mister Sterling," "In-Laws"), all of which were scheduled badly.

The ratings fell right after that.