I'm almost positive that Supernatural will be renewed for a third season, but I'm afraid that it might suffer some budget cuts, which could lead to a decline in quality. What do you think Marc?
I too think that it will be back. It has been a modest performer in a brutal timeslot. Some folks might have to go into therapy if they cancel it, though!!
Originally posted by tvfan300: I too think that it will be back. It has been a modest performer in a brutal timeslot. Some folks might have to go into therapy if they cancel it, though!!
LOL like me! It's about the only show I've actually enjoyed this season aside from Grey's and old BBC reruns!
I keep watching shows like Desperate Housewives and Lost but I have no idea why as the plot holes, crazy twists and turns are a total turn off lately!
I have this strange feeling they'll dice SN and disappoint a huge fan base!
Curious what Marc thinks as well!
Disappointing that the call for good sci/fi is far and between. Surface, Threshold, etc...all axed.
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I like supernatural and hope it will return. The ratings aren't bad, but it is way better than shows like Veronica Mars and One Tree Hill or any of the sitcoms. I think that Supernatural is in a better position and isnt' really on the choping block. The shows that are on the death chopping block are Veronica Mars, and all the sitcoms except Everybody hates Chris. Reba ended and wasn't really cancelled and maybe Gilmore Girls and 7th Heaven as well. CW would be stupid to cancell any shows this year because who and what will replace these shows that are retiring?
I will be very surprised if Supernatural don't go at least four to five seasons. If CW puts new programming at Thursday, I can assure that it will tank so fast that it will make Runaway seem like a star . Against Grey's Anatomy and CSI, I highly doubt any of the shows on the CW schedule along with the new release will do better than Supernatural. If the CW cancels Supernatural and replaces the show with a show that is similar, I am willing to bet that out of the core three million viewers 90% of them will not watch the show out of spite. Personally if CW cancels Supernatural, I am moving back to Grey's Anatomy.
If you are worried about Supernatural's performance last night, I can tell you that I wasn't suprised at all. Last night's episode was a critical turning point, when Sam killed someone and it wasn't a vision. Radical changes don't usually bode well for some viewers. Besides last night's CSI was the highly anticipated "return of Grissom" and it was promoted a lot during the Superbowl. It was also the highly anticipated three episode arc of Grey's Anatomy as well. It is the first episode of the season to dip below three million, there isn't anything to be alarmed unless the show continues the tread.
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Originally posted by Suzaku: I will be very surprised if Supernatural don't go at least four to five seasons. If CW puts new programming at Thursday, I can assure that it will tank so fast that it will make Runaway seem like a star . Against Grey's Anatomy and CSI, I highly doubt any of the shows on the CW schedule along with the new release will do better than Supernatural. If the CW cancels Supernatural and replaces the show with a show that is similar, I am willing to bet that out of the core three million viewers 90% of them will not watch the show out of spite. Personally if CW cancels Supernatural, I am moving back to Grey's Anatomy.
If you are worried about Supernatural's performance last night, I can tell you that I wasn't suprised at all. Last night's episode was a critical turning point, when Sam killed someone and it wasn't a vision. Radical changes don't usually bode well for some viewers. Besides last night's CSI was the highly anticipated "return of Grissom" and it was promoted a lot during the Superbowl. It was also the highly anticipated three episode arc of Grey's Anatomy as well. It is the first episode of the season to dip below three million, there isn't anything to be alarmed unless the show continues the tread.
Words of comfort Suzaku! Thanks for both of your great posts (this and the one in the supernatural category thread)!
Gee I'm hoping for Season 3 and you're talking 4 and 5 that's exciting lol!
Thanks again for the wisdom and comfort that we'll see more great things from SN!
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I really think Supernatural is safe. The CW knows how brutal this time slot is and fans can be rest assured that One Tree Hill and Veronica Mars would not come close to pulling in 3 million in this death slot. Personally, I'd like to see Supernatural move to either Tuesday or Sunday next year into a less brutal timeslot and maybe get some of those season one fans back. That would allow for a potential Smallville spinoff to air behind the mothership on Thursday.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: I really think Supernatural is safe. The CW knows how brutal this time slot is and fans can be rest assured that One Tree Hill and Veronica Mars would not come close to pulling in 3 million in this death slot. Personally, I'd like to see Supernatural move to either Tuesday or Sunday next year into a less brutal timeslot and maybe get some of those season one fans back. That would allow for a potential Smallville spinoff to air behind the mothership on Thursday.
I hope so! But they seem to have alot of upcoming series that they picked up! Reaper, etc...
We shall see!
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Originally posted by LivingIt: I hope so! But they seem to have alot of upcoming series that they picked up! Reaper, etc... We shall see!
There is a difference between a lot of picked up series and a series that get greenlight into a show. Aquaman from last season was picked up, however it wasn't good enough to be turned into a series. Besides once again who would be stupid enough to send a new series against the Unholy Trinity of Grey's, CSI and Scrubs. Between all three of them, you are pretty much covering the entire demo. If Supernatural was doing so badyly, then the Pussycat Doll show or Hidden Palms would have replaced it during hiatus. Supernatural does moderately well for repeats as well, so let's not freak out over one episode. We can all have a freak out if next two episode sinks below two million.
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Well...I think that it will get a third season. I also think that one of the problems the CW is having at the moment is trying to figure out how to promote its shows.
For instance, I have noticed a trend with the promotion and I am going to use Supernatural to explain it. When the show has a good run, the network promotes the next episode a lot. And if that airing does well, then the CW will promote it more for the coming week. And if that episode does well, I think that the CW thinks that it has done well with all of the promotion, so they back off. This was really evident with this past weeks episode. It was not promoted heavily by the network at all and neither was Smallville for that matter. I think that once the CW marketing department finally figures out how to promote all of its shows, to grab the viewers, it will do better.
I hope that makes sense to people. Anyways, I do not think that Supernatural is in any danger of being canned. I really believe that it will get a third season.
Originally posted by wenart25: Well...I think that it will get a third season. I also think that one of the problems the CW is having at the moment is trying to figure out how to promote its shows.
For instance, I have noticed a trend with the promotion and I am going to use Supernatural to explain it. When the show has a good run, the network promotes the next episode a lot. And if that airing does well, then the CW will promote it more for the coming week. And if that episode does well, I think that the CW thinks that it has done well with all of the promotion, so they back off. This was really evident with this past weeks episode. It was not promoted heavily by the network at all and neither was Smallville for that matter. I think that once the CW marketing department finally figures out how to promote all of its shows, to grab the viewers, it will do better.
I hope that makes sense to people. Anyways, I do not think that Supernatural is in any danger of being canned. I really believe that it will get a third season.
Peace!!
Promotions isn't the only problem with the CW. But there isn't constant promotions for those shows that do well and not well for CW. Besides CW needs to learn to promote Supernatural like how X-Files did with their ads. Kripke has repeatedly said that Supernatural can be compared to X-Files, yet every week it's never been promoted that way. Marketing departments need to watch some old ads from X-Files and learn to replicate the style.
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I believe the keystone show in the CW's plans is probably Gilmore Girls (I count VM as gone, Supernatural and OTH as returnees). If they lose GG, then one of their other shows will have to move into that slot to anchor the night.
The problem for the CW is getting something, anything, that is a breakout (say consistently 6-8 million) that they can use as a promotion platform...sure, we all know the CW schedule and where on the dial it is, but how many people outside of the core fan group do? And so how many people will hear much about the CW shows, old and new? If the CW doesn't solve that, it will continue to slide behind Univison, and eventually will be treated as a nice try, but not a serious player.
I believe the keystone show in the CW's plans is probably Gilmore Girls (I count VM as gone, Supernatural and OTH as returnees). If they lose GG, then one of their other shows will have to move into that slot to anchor the night.
I think they dread losing GG, because it's really the only show they have with any serious respectability factor. VM was never more than a cult fave among critics--nobody outside the fanbase took it seriously. GG is another matter, in spite of its general failure to win Emmys. This is a show that a lot of people love. Or rather, loved.
They'll do their utmost to keep the 'brandname' alive, but they do need Graham, and they probably need Bledel to come back more than once or twice in a season. And good scripts wouldn't hurt, but hey--let's not go crazy here.
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The problem for the CW is getting something, anything, that is a breakout (say consistently 6-8 million) that they can use as a promotion platform...
And the answer, best as I can tell, is to hire armed gunmen to hijack some other network's show. Maybe Numb3rs. That wouldn't attract too much attention.
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sure, we all know the CW schedule and where on the dial it is, but how many people outside of the core fan group do? And so how many people will hear much about the CW shows, old and new? If the CW doesn't solve that, it will continue to slide behind Univison, and eventually will be treated as a nice try, but not a serious player.
They'd be more likely to get a breakout with a reality show--for one thing, they can afford to do more of them.
I do think their worst problem is not that they don't have a big breakout hit--did WB, back when it started out? WB started out with total crap, eventually programmed some interesting shows, and built an audience on good WOM. And they threw that away when they decided to start a new network, instead of just continuing WB with the best of the UPN affiliates added on.
The real problem is that their shows aren't good enough. Their best shows are OLD shows. People show up, watch what CW has to offer, say "Eh", change the channel, and forget about it.
Sure, they have loyal viewers for some of these shows, but not enough of them, and of the type that tend to drive people away. Most people aren't looking for a lifestyle choice when they watch a TV show. They just want to be entertained. Not indoctrinated.
At this point in time, CW needs to cut just about every scripted show other than Smallville, GG, and maybe Supernatural. Fill the schedule gaps with inexpensive 'unscripted' shows. And then develop, develop, develop. Find a new identity. I'm not optimistic about their chances.
that's exciting lol!
